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  • jmsfmtex

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    Is it legal to carry (CHL) in a nursing home? I thought I saw a sign, not the legal one, but one saying no firearms allowed.
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    40Arpent

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    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H. Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
    person:

    (4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241,
    Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate

    Time for you to brush up: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/LS-16.pdf
     

    jmsfmtex

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    Right

    Thank you for the quick response. I have a copy and was reading it but I seemed to have missed that section. Thanks for the ref too.
     

    Morgan

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    you missed something pretty important....

    "Subsections (b)(4)...do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06"

    Page 41 of the above PDF.
     

    Morgan

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    hey... that's like the most common mistake I think... because it's written STUPIDLY. The restriction was there, and instead of removing the restriction, they ADDED the exception.

    Painful, really.... makes my head hurt. But it is what it is. LOL
     

    JKTex

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    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H. Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
    person:
    (4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241,
    Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate


    "Subsections (b)(4)...do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06"

    Page 41 of the above PDF.

    Good catch Morgan. It's why you really need to be drinking when you read the laws. And you can't just stop because you found what you were looking for. If you stop, there will be more that changes what you read.
     

    Morgan

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    Yeah, I love to sit down at night with a glass of wine or a good beer, and read law.... Well, when I can't sleep..... LOL
     

    DoubleActionCHL

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    You're exactly right. Texas lawmakers' pencils have no erasers. Hospitals, Amusement parks, Meetings of Governmental Entities and Places of Worship listed as prohibit, but then excepted by the 30.06 posting.
     

    Morgan

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    I'd like to disagree with your signature line, btw. LEFTISTS are people.... Liberals are people who want to protect and expand ALL of your rights, not JUST the ones that they themselves value.
     

    Texan2

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    I'd like to disagree with your signature line, btw. LEFTISTS are people.... Liberals are people who want to protect and expand ALL of your rights, not JUST the ones that they themselves value.
    The problem is that liberals in the U.S. think that everything is a "right". Health Care, free school lunch, public transportation, free prescriptions, govt. retirement (social seurity)....and whatever else they want. AND, liberals expect you and me to pay for their perceived "rights"....

    Our society has twisted what a "right" is...
     

    Morgan

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    My point is that for the last 20 years, the right (people like Rush Limbaugh) have been incorrectly labeling LEFTISTS as LIBERALS. And frankly, mislabeling rightists as conservatives. I know I'm fighting a losing battle to get people to actually call a spade a spade... but if you take a poli-sci class, the classic political definitions are NOT what "we" use in common practice.

    I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying about leftists. Just saying that you're saying it about LEFTIST, not LIBERALS. The people you call liberals aren't...they're leftists. You're very CORRECT about what "they" are doing and want. And frankly, it's that desire that makes them NOT liberals. When you make a move to restrict freedoms, and when you move to redistribute wealth, you're moving away from liberalism, and toward leftist socialism.
     

    Texan2

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    i have taken college level classes on the subject and your point is well taken...
    as you were challenging the definition of leftist/liberal, i was challenging the definition of what a "right" is....we throw that term around very loosely in this country. as a society, we think anytime we want something, it is our "right" to have it....

    but i understand what you were saying....nice to be joined by some politically saavy pro 2A brethren....
     

    Morgan

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    Therein lies the crook of the argument. libertarians are more truly liberals in general. Calling democrats and leftists "liberal" is far less correct.
     

    DoubleActionCHL

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    Therein lies the crook of the argument. libertarians are more truly liberals in general. Calling democrats and leftists "liberal" is far less correct.

    You can argue semantics all you like, but the contemporary definition of 'liberal' and 'leftist' are virtually identical. And don't you mean 'crux'?
     

    Morgan

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    yes, crux...darn spell check.

    Yes, language is fluid. It's too bad that Americans are blurring definitions in ways that are bad. Because now what do you call someone who's actually liberal? Bob?
     
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