NYC another black eye

[thack1963]

Would like to hear more opinions on this. Sad for the family of the young man killed.

Innocent bodega worker shot and killed by cop responding to armed robbery - NYPOST.com

 

[London]

Mayor Bloomberg is right when he says not everyone should be allowed to have guns, but he's got the approach all backwards. Start with NYPD, not NY citizenry.

I hope this starts a complete rebuild of the firearm training given to NYPD. These guys act like they learned everything they need to know about guns by watching action movies.

 

[Bithabus]

This is what happens when the citizenry is disarmed and conditioned to believe that weapons are taboo. The people are the police.

 

[TXARGUY]

People of New York; welcome to your new police state. You created it with your votes. Now own it.

 

[Orbie]

People of New York; welcome to your new police state. You created it with your votes. Now own it.

BOOM! so true.

 

[Texan2]

I wouldnt want to be a cop in a city as crowded as NYC and have to drop a shooter in public.

 

[TXARGUY]

I wouldnt want to be a cop in a city as crowded as NYC and have to drop a shooter in public.

No problem there. The NYC cops just shoot all of the non-shooters so that it's easier to identify and arrest the guy with the gun.

 

[smtimelevi]

Sounds like a wonderful place NOT to FUCKING live.

 

[M. Sage]

I wouldnt want to be a cop in a city as crowded as NYC and have to drop a shooter in public.

Would have to work harder on your shooting skills (though I'm sure you work 10x harder than anybody in NYPD on yours, so "you" isn't really aimed at you personally) and be willing to hold that shot until you know you can make it.

 

[TheRealT-Dawg]

No problem there. The NYC cops just shoot all of the non-shooters so that it's easier to identify and arrest the guy with the gun.

I guess they were taught Russian Spetznaz style - "Everyone dies" or "shoot everyone"

 

[Texan2]

Would have to work harder on your shooting skills (though I'm sure you work 10x harder than anybody in NYPD on yours, so "you" isn't really aimed at you personally) and be willing to hold that shot until you know you can make it.

Agreed. But I feel both for the victim and for the department line officers who are never offered any REAL training and have to protect one of the nations largest cities.

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[thack1963]

My question here, Why would the Cop that fired the shot have his damn finger on the trigger with no target. I have had my wife to the range maybe 4 times now, she is just learning, but she DAMN sure knows that rule.

 

[Texan2]

My question here, Why would the Cop that fired the shot have his damn finger on the trigger with no target. I have had my wife to the range maybe 4 times now, she is just learning, but she DAMN sure knows that rule.

See post 11

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[Mexican_Hippie]

Sounds like a wonderful place NOT to FUCKING live.

^^^Exactly.

Negligence on the part of the mayor if you ask me. If he quit dicking around w/ programs like limiting sodas he might have enough cash to properly train his police. You have the constant terrorism threat and masses of people. Those guys need to be getting a ton of training to be effective in that environment.

That being said, if you're a LEO up there you ought to take it on yourself to do some training on your own if the city isn't providing it. You don't need to unload a mag into someone before reassessing a situation to see what you hit.

If they were more pro gun there might be more trainers that actually served the NYC area.

 

[grasshopperglock]

People of New York; welcome to your new police state. You created it with your votes. Now own it.

Thats my clinical opinion.

OWN IT, you bunch of dumbasses. You voted for that idiot. Enjoy getting shot, you bunch of,"Sex in the City", stunt doubles...

How long can so many people sleep? Mindless drones.

 

[TXARGUY]

Prosecutors probe shooting of store clerk by NY police - CNN.com

Seems there's more to this story. The officer pinned the guy to the ground prior to shooting him and it's all caught on video. I'm all for supporting police officers in a time like this but it's looking more and more like this particular officers actions crossed the thin blue line into criminality.

 

[dreyes89]

New York Bodega Police Accidentally Shoot Victim - YouTube

 

[Texas42]

hard to tell when the gun goes off.

I wouldn't say completely damning, but it doesn't look good either.

 

[M. Sage]

My question here, Why would the Cop that fired the shot have his damn finger on the trigger with no target. I have had my wife to the range maybe 4 times now, she is just learning, but she DAMN sure knows that rule.

No training. In CA I found out the police culture had a way of thinking that "whenever it's out, the finger is on the trigger." When called on it, they fall back to the tired old "if you haven't been there, you don't know!!!"