Obama 2012...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ConnRadd, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. ConnRadd

    ConnRadd Active Member

    Don't pull your guns on me just yet... :fighting0010:

    Just something to think about:
    With the talks of a new party having more of the true conservative values, like a "Tea Party" or whatever; which I believe Palin will be heading that movement...

    If this were to form (or has started to form); this would pull many republicans over, as well, independents away; but leaving many democrats still stuck on Obama..(hmmmm) Splitting the republican party and recreating the Bush/Perot/Clinton type of scenario all over again...

    Don't get me wrong, I believe that having Regan Era Conservative party again will our country back in line. But if we are not careful, we could get Obama once again... :mad0071:
     


  2. oldguy

    oldguy Well-Known

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    I agree with your take on a third party, it can work "if" enough support can be gathered prior to election for a third party otherwise the media will simply divide the voters once again on race and the leftist win again.

    If voters want their country back the liberals/progressives/communist(difficult to tell them apart)must be stopped or America faces some horrible times ahead.
     
  3. MadMo44Mag

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    +1 - stole from DCortez!
     
  4. Freedom1911

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    I believe there are many unhappy democrats out there right now as well.
    I have spoken to many people this past year that I would have taken as Republicans.
    Definitely conservatives by the way they talk, but much to my surprise they were Democrats. And they were none to happy with what Obama, Nancy and Mr Reed are doing right now. They voted for Bam Bam and regret it.
    I think with the rise of a third party (which I think is unavoidable now) the two parties will be split. And it seems that the bigger part of the independents are conservative.
    I am probably wrong but I see no less than 2/3 of the country voting conservative in the next election (2010) and at least a small portion of those elected will be third party.
    I am hoping that 2012 sees anyone but a Democrat as President and I would be very happy if it were NOT a Republican.
    I think it is past time for a third part winner as President. What a slap in the face to the Dems and Reps if that happened. The people standing as one saying "We are mad as hell and we are not taking your CRAP any more"
    If Palin runs on any ticket in 2012. I will be out campaigning for her.
    Don't have any money any more. Obama has seen to that. But I still have my two legs (for now)(unless Obama takes those before 2012) and they have got to be good for something.
     
  5. res1b3uq

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    No one ever seems to mention that the GOP was once a "third party" in the long ago and far away. If we refuse to stand on our principals, the country will just drift on the way it's going, with the republicans hunkered in a corner, trying not to upset the damacrats. The eastern republicans,(and I fear, our senators) are not leaders, have no firm convictions, and wilt at adversity
     
  6. Texas1911

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    There will be equal fragmentation of the Democratic party as well. Many of the conservative Democrats aren't happy, and many of the socialist Democrats aren't happy. Simply put, Obama is trying to please everyone, and simply pissing off ... everyone.

    A third party will depend on the GOPs reaction to it's voter base becoming more vocal. The election for Governor here in Texas, and the upcoming 2010 elections, will be a strong indication of how either party will fair.

    People are mad, but I think you'll see a greater "Come to Jesus" movement internally in the two major parties. Neither of them want to give breathing room to a 3rd party.
     
  7. MadMo44Mag

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    +1 - stole from DCortez!
    Neither party can afford a 3rd party. If the GOP tries as they have done in the past and be all things to all people they are doomed and the 3rd party will rise and carry a lot of votes which could hand the Dems the oval office back - IMO!
     
  8. navyguy

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    I don't think we (the US) will not be ready for a 3 party system come 2012. Maybe some day, but not by 2012. If that does happen in 2012 Obama will for sure be back in. The main stream media will treat the third party (whatever it is called) as a joke, and more Republicans than Democrats will cross over. Independents will probably be split pretty evenly between the three, with maybe just a little more going to the new party. But the end result will be 4 more years of Obama dragging the country down.

    If this new party does emerge, then I hope my assessment is incorrect.
     
  9. cuate

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    Presently we should concentrate on electing people that will replace the toadies of obama and himself of course, and not look to a Third Party yet.
    It would be terrible to support a worthy Third Party person and split the vote and allow the scum that are incombents to win re election. If Palin runs, I pray that she will run as GOP so we can avoid a mess. After seeing Huckabee on Fox regularly, I rather wish he'd been the front runner besides McCain. I like him and Palin.....
     
  10. SiscoKid

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    Sure don't want to see another 1992 fiasco where Peeroe splits conservatives and a demo wins with 45% of the vote.

    Think about it. Once again 95% of blacks will vote for Obammy. If he continues to slide and Hitlery gets nominated, still 90% of blacks will vote democrat. It's all they have ever done, it's like eating watermelon to them. Vote? Democrat! They would rather sacrifice their first born then vote Republican.

    So the battle is to win conservatives and get independents to swing more to the right. They thought Centrist McCain could do it, but he lost many conservatives and most illiterate independents voted Obammy anyway, because of his promises. He campaigned to the center, is very left now.

    Long way to go. Who is to say who will emerge. But, like someone said, 2010 will determine a lot. If Repugs make a lot of gains, great. If they take over either house or senate, super.
     

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