Oh this is good. Dallas PD cop kills man

[benenglish]

I was thinking about this as I was casting bullets today. Perhaps she knew exactly what see was saying. It's possible she thinks she should be punished for what happened.

That never occurred to me. Thanks for that perspective.

 

[Renegade]

Not really.

2017, last year I found full data for

FBI says 889 deaths from unarmed people.
FBI says 1.3M unarmed assaults in same year.

That is .00068 encounters is deadly.

So yes, really.

 

[Renegade]

I agree. But how many times can her lawyers make the same mistake? How many times has she sat down to talk over her testimony? How many times has she had other discussions with her lawyers where her testimony was addressed? In all those communications between her and her advocates, no one ever made sure she was prepared to say something other than "My state of mind was that I wanted to murder that man"?

Her lawyers failed to prep her on that one point at least a dozen times, I'm betting. Mistakes happen but they made this mistake plenty of times over an extended period of time and no one in the room or on the calls caught it. That's inexcusable.

I think they need to put their client prep notes into a checklist for future cases.

Of course, maybe the lawyers did everything right and she just screwed up on the stand. That's entirely possible. She's certainly proven that she's stupid enough.

It will be interesting to see if prosecution brings this up in summary - "...defendant has admitted she wanted to kill him...."

 

[ZX9RCAM]

She should have lied....

 

[BillFairbanks]

She should have lied....

I don’t think she’s smart enough to be a good liar.




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[Bithabus]

I was thinking about this as I was casting bullets today. Perhaps she knew exactly what see was saying. It's possible she thinks she should be punished for what happened.

No way she would consciously throw away her career to kill some pot dealer.

 

[Renegade]

She should have lied....

I think she lied about CPR.

Or someone can explain to me how you can zero blood on your body, clothes, gear while performing chest compressions on guy whose bullet hole is right where your hands are.

 

[AustinN4]

No way she would consciously throw away her career to kill some pot dealer.

Has that been proven?

 

[Bithabus]

Has that been proven?

Absolutely not. Good chance that was his personal stash. I was attempting to present "what she saw" in the worst possible light. Still, no way she chose to murder him and throw her life away.

 

[C_Hallbert]

I agree. But how many times can her lawyers make the same mistake? How many times has she sat down to talk over her testimony? How many times has she had other discussions with her lawyers where her testimony was addressed? In all those communications between her and her advocates, no one ever made sure she was prepared to say something other than "My state of mind was that I wanted to murder that man"?

Her lawyers failed to prep her on that one point at least a dozen times, I'm betting. Mistakes happen but they made this mistake plenty of times over an extended period of time and no one in the room or on the calls caught it. That's inexcusable.

I think they need to put their client prep notes into a checklist for future cases.

Of course, maybe the lawyers did everything right and she just screwed up on the stand. That's entirely possible. She's certainly proven that she's stupid enough.

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[Dad_Roman]

It will be interesting to see if prosecution brings this up in summary - "...defendant has admitted she wanted to kill him...."

Thats a "definite"

 

[avvidclif]

How in hell can anyone say that walking into someone else's home and shooting the occupant is justifiable?

Ask the Houston police about it. They seems to be pretty good at it.

 

[avvidclif]

A lot of folks here have LTC's. In the class were you taught to shoot to wound, no, you were taught to shoot to kill. That's the ONLY guaranteed end to the threat. If you stop before give yourself an attaboy because that's not what you were trying to do.

I was always taught the ONLY time your weapon was drawn was when you were justified in killing someone. It was not for scare tactics. If the situation rectifies itself before shots are fired that's great, all the way around. BUT when that gun came out if you didn't have the mindset that you were going to kill, if needed, find another line of work or if you have a LTC give it up.

 

[Renegade]

A lot of folks here have LTC's. In the class were you taught to shoot to wound, no, you were taught to shoot to kill.

My CHL/LTC Instructor did not teach either one of these. Didn't teach it when I was an Instructor, and I do not recall the DPS Instructor teaching that either but it was almost 25 years ago. Curious if @txinvestigator teaches his students to shoot to kill.

 

[V-Tach]

You were taught to shoot to kill in the LTC class?


Interesting...

 

[TheMailMan]

We were told to shoot to stop the threat.

 

[motorcarman]

Only 007 has a license to KILL.

 

[El Spicoli]

Only 007 has a license to KILL.

No license needed. You can find what you can do in Chapter 9 of the Penal Code

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[txinvestigator]

A lot of folks here have LTC's. In the class were you taught to shoot to wound, no, you were taught to shoot to kill. That's the ONLY guaranteed end to the threat. If you stop before give yourself an attaboy because that's not what you were trying to do.

I was always taught the ONLY time your weapon was drawn was when you were justified in killing someone. It was not for scare tactics. If the situation rectifies itself before shots are fired that's great, all the way around. BUT when that gun came out if you didn't have the mindset that you were going to kill, if needed, find another line of work or if you have a LTC give it up.

Your instructor was an idiot and lord help you if you are ever in a shooting. Lord help your attorney too

 

[jrbfishn]

2017, last year I found full data for

FBI says 889 deaths from unarmed people.
FBI says 1.3M unarmed assaults in same year.

That is .00068 encounters is deadly.

So yes, really.

So, those 889 deaths are ok with you?
Do you think they or their families feel any better knowing they are such a small percentage?

Or just because the killer didn't use a knife or gun that it was ok?
What about the number of folks disfigured or crippled by beatings?
Are you ok with those too?
What about someone that breaks in and just wants to beat and/or rape someone and doesn't have a gun? Are you good with that to?

You seem to be.
You keep making excuses as to why a person should never use deadly force to defend against someone that doesn't have a gun.



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