Opinions: S&W 642 with Crimson Trace or Colt Defender

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by alestex, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. alestex

    alestex New Member

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    All,

    I've spent HOURS reading and pondering whether to go with a Smith & Wesson 642 with Crimson Trace grip or a Colt Defender. Mixed use between carry and home. I like the idea of the laser, but not the smaller caliber with 38/38+p versus 45. Defender is a sweet weapon with stopping power of a 45, but a little more maintenance and no laser (could add, but don't have the $'s to put into right now). Cost to shoot is not that much different if you shop around. S&W is $700 and Colt is $900.

    Thoughts?

    p.s. I'm now convinced there is no "right" answer...just looking for the tie breaker.

    Help!
     


  2. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

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    Neither. I'm not a fan of revolvers, and as much as I like Colt Defenders, I have seen enough issues with "chopped" down 1911's that I have developed enough distrust for the shorter barrel ones that I wouldn't choose one for a carry gun as a first choice (not without testing a particular one a lot). The shorter barrel you go with on a 1911, the less room for error there is with the feeding of the gun, and the more and more issues I've seen. Take my words with a grain of course. I've known people that have never had problems with Defenders, Kimber Ultra compacts of various types, etc. Though, there's no telling how much or how little some of those people really put those guns through their paces to see if they might experience reliability issues. I've known a lot of people that have bought cool guns like that, put one or 2 mags through them, never had a problem, carried them for years, and somehow believed that "they work just fine" and they would probably never have a problem. I like guns that I've personally fired thousands of rounds through myself, and that I know work and I've personally maintained. That being said.......buy the Defender because revolvers are gay and Defenders are just plain cool. :rofl: Heck, now that I've talked a bit about the Defenders, and after having seen a couple today I think I want one now because they are really pretty cool.
     
  3. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

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    Oh this sucks. Darn you for this post! Now you have me thinking about the Defender again. That or an Officer's. After searching google pics, now I'm seriously considering that again. Just when I think I've made up my mind. Me wants. ;) lol
     
  4. TexasRedneck

    TexasRedneck 1911 Nut Lifetime Member

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    I routinely carry 4 compacts - one a kimber, one a Randall, one a Wilson and one a High Standard. ALL are routinely taken to the range, where they're fed everything from SD HP's to 165-grain SWC's. None have given me FTF/FTE issues, which I'll admit to being surprised about - but I won't complain!<G> Bottom line is that you may find you need to fine-tune a gun, but generally speaking it SHOULD handle about anything ya throw at it. I've had full-sized guns that've given me more problems than the compacts - it's a case-by-case basis.
    An' Sig, you're right - no matter WHAT you choose to carry, you DO need to exercise it at the range routinely. I'll typically take whatever I'm carrying to the range, fire it, clean and then put it back into the "rotation", just to make sure everything I have is good to go.
     
  5. dbgun

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  6. Okierifleman

    Okierifleman Active Member

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    I probably have 4-5K through my Stainless UCII and not one single FTF/FTE. I carry it every day. Buy the defender already!
     
  7. TexasRedneck

    TexasRedneck 1911 Nut Lifetime Member

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    ....an' now, lemme REALLY say sumthin' ta tick folks off...

    IN MY OPINION, if you're totin' a gun with a laser figgerin' that's gonna make up for sight picture, you are BEGGING for a problem. When SHTF, you're gonna revert to training - so you whup out the gun, look for the little dot.....an' realize it ain't workin'. What are ya gonna do? By the time you figure that out, I'm gonna have several AIMED rounds down range - an' so will the bad guy.
    Sorry - but the li'l "gadgets" on SD guns do NOT play in my toybox. With a purty good selection of handguns, rifles an' shotguns, not ONE has laser. Period. Thought about 'em, but between worryin' about bein' traceable in a smokey/dusty environment, an' concern w/a failer, I figger if I can't see 'em well 'nuff to pop a cap on 'em, they can't see me, neither - so I'll simply hunker down an' wait 'em out.
     
  8. Okierifleman

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    Now G, we would never expect you to say anything to tick anyone off.............
     
  9. TexasRedneck

    TexasRedneck 1911 Nut Lifetime Member

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    Quiet, son - ah ain't forgiven you fer backin' out on dinner!!:lolz:
     
  10. Okierifleman

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    I told you I would make it up to you!
     

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