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  1. xkon

    xkon New Member

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    Just moved into TX from the North East. I have not been able to get a TX license as of yet given the COVID situation. Until I can get it, I believe I won't be able to purchase handguns, however can I purchase long guns with an out of state license?
     


  2. ZX9RCAM

    ZX9RCAM Over the Rainbow bridge... TGT Supporter

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  3. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

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    You can purchase as a resident using your out of state ID and a govt issued document showing residency (water bill, utility bill, hunting license, W-2, etc).
     
  4. Coiled

    Coiled TGT Addict

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    Yeah it is. And, he's badly indoctrinated and did ZERO homework. :(
     
  5. jrbfishn

    jrbfishn TGT Addict

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    Use a hunting/fishing license.
    Per ATF, water and utility bills are not acceptable.

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  6. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

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    Wrong.

    ATF has covered this ad naseum in the FFL newsletters. A combination of govt issued documents to establish identity and residence may be used. it is even written into the instructions on the 4473.
     
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  7. jrbfishn

    jrbfishn TGT Addict

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    Yes, I know the instructions.
    I sold guns for an FFL and talked to ATF agents on several occasions.
    Utilities are not government agencies. Their bills are not government issued.
    Although water bills are frequently paid to city agencies, they are also ran by private agencies.
    TPW requires, at least supposedly, a state issued ID to purchase and are issued a bonifide government agency through a proxy, such as Academy or Walmart. The same for vehicle registration. Through the county with approved state ID.
    YMMV. I know you are much smarter than me. Have a nice day.

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  8. cycleguy2300

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    Some utilities are... some are not.

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  9. Renegade

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    If you know the instructions you should read them. They do not have to be "government agencies". The law is clear and what constitutes a valid Govt issued document. Yes my co-op water LLC is not valid nor is my co-op electric bill. Does not mean the ones for OP are not. Maybe they are, maybe not. I was giving him a sample of possible valid docs, not claiming ALL are valid.
     
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  10. jrbfishn

    jrbfishn TGT Addict

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    Some are administered by the city government and some are contracted. That is what I said. Every ATF investigator, auditor and FFL investigative officer I have personally talked to has stated that water bills do not qualify for proof of residence.
    I have read them many times as well as read them TO many customers to make sure the understood them.
    What I tried to convey is what the ATF has stated TO ME IN PERSON what is acceptable and what is not on more than one occasion. That is my experience.
    You think what you want.
    Personally, I would not bet on your interpretation of the regulations. Or mine for that matter or I would not have bothered asking them. They were the ones that were going to put me in jail if I, or you, were wrong.
    So what either of us think really does not matter much, does it?

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