Outcome of Vegas shooting?

[Younggun]

I think they just figure Bump Fire was low hanging fruit so they would throw it out there and be able to say "see, we did something to help", still not understanding that the left will never be satisfied.

They are trying to play politics and cut losses. I see the game, but it's a losing strategy.

 

[Dirt n Dust]

I don't make a habit of promoting or defending the NRA but...their statement only recommended that the ATF should reevaluate the bump fire stock. They never said congress should look into legislation. They also said that congress needs to get off their butts and pass national reciprocity.

 

[sobi1998]

I don't make a habit of promoting or defending the NRA but...their statement only recommended that the ATF should reevaluate the bump fire stock. They never said congress should look into legislation. They also said that congress needs to get off their butts and pass national reciprocity.

I totally support national carry law but in this case alone. I highly doubt someone could've stopped him. He shot 200 times at a security guard alone...200!!! It would've been suicide to charge him or go after him
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[Dawico]

Yeah well the NRA just lost a member here.

But it ain't just bump stocks here. It ain't just binary triggers or cranks. The way Swinestein's bill is currently drafted, and I realize it can be changed, any modification to the fire control group can be viewed as increasing the ,as yet undefined, ROF of a semiautomatic rifle, whatever that is. That's your Geisseles's. That's your Timney's. That your modified stock triggers.

This bill is shit and the NRA supports it. Unbelievable.

That isn't true at all. The NRA is trying to avoid the bill getting voted on at all, which is a good thing.

 

[Dawico]

I think they just figure Bump Fire was low hanging fruit so they would throw it out there and be able to say "see, we did something to help", still not understanding that the left will never be satisfied.

They are trying to play politics and cut losses. I see the game, but it's a losing strategy.

They are trying to curb any legislation by keeping it out of Congress. Pretty good tactic if you ask me.

If the ATF keeps control of the bump fire issue then there will be no need for a ban from Congress.

If nothing else, the ATF will drag their feet long enough for the mass hysteria to die down before a bill is put up for vote. We do not want Congress ramming a law through with emotions in such an elevated level. We will lose that battle.

 

[sobi1998]

Quick back story: Dan is a social media celebrity that thinks he's tough, he filmed himself running from the concert and claims he went back to help later


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[TreyG-20]

The frenzy is in full swing. $400 Echo triggers are now worth nearly $1000 more.

 

[AustinN4]

Texas Republican Representative Bill Flores and Senator Cornyn are calling for gun control now. They need to feel the heat.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/10/04/Texas-Republicans-Cornyn-Flores-bump-stock-ban/

That isn't gun control, it is stock control.

 

[SidewaysTA]

That isn't true at all. The NRA is trying to avoid the bill getting voted on at all, which is a good thing.

I don't buy it. They are pandering.

 

[Brian Boru]

That isn't gun control, it is stock control.

If banning semi autos is receiver control.

 

[AustinN4]

They are trying to curb any legislation by keeping it out of Congress. Pretty good tactic if you ask me.

If the ATF keeps control of the bump fire issue then there will be no need for a ban from Congress.

If nothing else, the ATF will drag their feet long enough for the mass hysteria to die down before a bill is put up for vote. We do not want Congress ramming a law through with emotions in such an elevated level. We will lose that battle.

I am in agreement with all of this, especially since congress likely would other items to the bill.

 

[Dawico]

I am in agreement with all of this, especially since congress likely would other items to the bill.

Exactly and thank you.

As the current bill reads to ban any modification to allow a firearm to shoot faster than stock (as I take it), that can effect ANY firearm. ARs to single action black powder revolvers will be affected.

We need to keep Congress away from this issue and that is what the NRA is trying to do.

 

[SidewaysTA]

Yeah well if that's their strategy, it sucks.

All they've done is sent a signal to everyone that "hey, even the NRA thinks bump stocks should be illegal".

 

[avvidclif]

While all of you "armchair" politicians are jumping on the NRA just remember. They did not come out in favor of a law, they came out in favor of ATF reevaluating them. BIG DIFFERENCE.

But the biggest thing is the NRA has been playing the Washington politics game for a LONG time and knows better than any of you how to play it. Over the years they have a very good track record of 2A victories. 20 years ago how many states had concealed carry?

Now my 2 cents worth on the other groups since everybody is into conspiracy theory. Why do you think the NRA has the political pull they do, simple, membership. A large and very active membership. The anti-gun folks know this. How would be the best way to defeat them? Drain their membership! How? Create a bunch of splinter groups. Think that one over a bit.

Politicians are all about getting re-elected and pay close attention to NUMBERS

 

[Shady]

well if you dropped the NRA are you going to drop Gun Broker now ?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...unbroker-bans-sale-slidefire-bumpfire-stocks/

 

[Younggun]

Gunbroker is dropped.


That was easy.

 

[Younggun]

I'm open to these opinions on the NRAs gameplan. Not going to agree with them under the conditions put forth.


The NRA also has a history of giving high ratings to polititions who aren't so gun friendly and ignoring some pretty important gun related issues.

The biggest thing the NRA does for the 2A is scan bills and send alerts when some anti gun crap is hidden in an unrelated bill.

 

[nlghthawk]

I don't see how they can legislate how you shoot a gun. I don't need a device to achieve bumpfire.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjgs17C2oGF0QEai5BxCpb-6ximy2xPUk

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Quick back story: Dan is a social media celebrity that thinks he's tough, he filmed himself running from the concert and claims he went back to help later


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So, is the person standing male, or female?

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I like this guy's views most of the time.