Patriot Arms - Galveston -- BEWARE!

[SC-Texas]

He charged you tax on the transfer?

That is incorrect.

There is no tax on a transfer.

 

[juwaba98]

- except for the $250 ($270.65 with tax!) transfer fee.

Ouch, the old add the tax as if it wasn't bad enough already trick. That's why I like my local FFL, $25.00 is the fee and that is tax included.

 

[Kincaid]

OK, I've stated my case - I feel better that I bantered it around with you guys. I will follow through with my formal complaint process, maybe even small claims. Have to spend $50 to recoup - maybe $150-200. I'd assume $50 is a reasonable transfer fee, although I think I read the state average is $17.50! Could that be right?

 

[juwaba98]

He charged you tax on the transfer?

That is incorrect.

There is no tax on a transfer.

Is this because it is considered a service? I was under the impression that it was taxable.

 

[Kincaid]

Charged tax on the transfer. Twenty bucks and change.

 

[Texas1911]

Is this because it is considered a service? I was under the impression that it was taxable.

The ATF doesn't charge tax.

 

[juwaba98]

The ATF doesn't charge tax.

Right, but they don't charge a transfer fee either, the dealer does. Correct? And the dealer is a business (obviously) that is required to adhere to all fed/state/local tax laws. The ATF requires the transfer, so dealers charge for it. So is the transfer fee sent to ATF and not taxable that way? Or is the fee considered a service such as labor and not taxable that way?

 

[45tex]

I don't care what the other side of the story is, $250 is legal theft. I don't like nor would I knowingly deal with a thief.

 

[SC-Texas]

Texas does not charge sales tax on a transfer.

This is outright theivery.

 

[navyguy]

Tax on transfers is a gray area. I've never been charged tax, but have heard of this being done. I just hope they are actually claiming it as tax, and sending it to the state.

 

[okie556]

OK, I've stated my case - I feel better that I bantered it around with you guys. I will follow through with my formal complaint process, maybe even small claims. Have to spend $50 to recoup - maybe $150-200. I'd assume $50 is a reasonable transfer fee, although I think I read the state average is $17.50! Could that be right?

Sorry for your hassel. This behavior does not reflect the way most Texas business operates.

 

[dbgun]

Sorry for your hassel. This behavior does not reflect the way most Texas business operates.

+1

 

[Kincaid]

Well, before I'm finished I will make sure it doesn't go in his pocket. I have the receipt. I'm tempted to dispute the credit card charge!!! Hey - maybe that's an angle - dispute the charge, make him chase me.

 

[Kincaid]

And, thats exactly what the ATF Agent told me -- "next time, call me, I'll point you to the right FFL" --- Why me!

 

[beerpunk]

Well, before I'm finished I will make sure it doesn't go in his pocket. I have the receipt. I'm tempted to dispute the credit card charge!!! Hey - maybe that's an angle - dispute the charge, make him chase me.

I would.... let him explain and justify to CC co.

 

[okie556]

Well, before I'm finished I will make sure it doesn't go in his pocket. I have the receipt. I'm tempted to dispute the credit card charge!!! Hey - maybe that's an angle - dispute the charge, make him chase me.

I know it's not my $250.00 + but I think if it was.........I would chalk it up to a very costly lesson in life and go on about my business. Disputing the charge would almost bring you down to his level and since there was a FFL transfer involved.....you might end up get ATF involved again but they would be on his side this time not yours. Just my

 

[Kincaid]

Hah! Done. Have a flag on it. Ball in his court.

 

[Kincaid]

Good point Okie. CC said it hasn't been "posted" yet, but they flagged it and I have to call back on Thursday to see if it is posted in that amount, then I tell them if it's disputed. I don't mind being ripped off - a little - the transaction wasn't a plain vanilla thank you very much type -- but, $250+tax ($270) is just a tad past the point of toleration.

 

[okie556]

Good point Okie. CC said it hasn't been "posted" yet, but they flagged it and I have to call back on Thursday to see if it is posted in that amount, then I tell them if it's disputed. I don't mind being ripped off - a little - the transaction wasn't a plain vanilla thank you very much type -- but, $250+tax ($270) is just a tad past the point of toleration.

Understand your point and pain......just saying disputing the charge may not be the best approach.

 

[Kincaid]

And, as an ol' feller told me once .... "son, the squeezin tain't worth the juice..."