Peeping Tom DRT

[Dawico]

Story says she saw him peeking through bedroom window, but shot him through wall. Huh?

When I do my peeping I just barely pop my head up in the window. Just enough to get my eyes where they need to be.

All of my body remains in concealment behind the wall under or beside the window.

Only the noobs stand full body in the window like you see in horror movies.

This part of the story makes sense from a tactical standpoint. You wouldn't shoot at the little part of the head popping up in the window.

Even if she did and missed low or to the side the bullets would go through the wall.

That may be the case even if she shot solid as I doubt her rifle was zeroed at 10 feet.

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[Wallace Dunn]

Damn!

So, she evidently shot multiple times through her wall?

"Fearing for her safety, the woman shot the man through the wall with a rifle.
The man sustained gunshot wounds to his torso"

Is this going to work out well for her?
She was inside, he was outside, and she feared for her life?

Likely no charges, but WAY risky on her part. Unfortunately, it depends on who the shooter is, who the dirt bag is, and WHERE this occurred. WAY too many variables. I have a hard time seeing self-defense when there's a wall between you.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Likely no charges, but WAY risky on her part. Unfortunately, it depends on who the shooter is, who the dirt bag is, and WHERE this occurred. WAY too many variables. I have a hard time seeing self-defense when there's a wall between you.

Her saving grace is (I presume) the ability to articulate the dead guy's actions as preparation for an imminent violent felony against her. A risky move? Yes, very risky. I wish State law made it a little more clear cut with broadened specific justification for night-time and within curtilage of the home, especially it there was another crime beyond simple trespassing.

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[rotor]

Class C misdemeanor.

 

[Wodon43]

China Joe said to shoot through the door with your shotgun. Door, wall, shotgun, rifle what different does it make, China Joe says it’s ok

 

[gll]

Likely no charges, but WAY risky on her part. Unfortunately, it depends on who the shooter is, who the dirt bag is, and WHERE this occurred. WAY too many variables. I have a hard time seeing self-defense when there's a wall between you.

If she could shoot through the wall, so could he...

 

[Hoji]

Her saving grace is (I presume) the ability to articulate the dead guy's actions as preparation for an imminent violent felony against her. A risky move? Yes, very risky. I wish State law made it a little more clear cut with broadened specific justification for night-time and within curtilage of the home, especially it there was another crime beyond simple trespassing.

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Or she could articulate that the dead guy was about to “paint” her wall outside the bedroom window without permission, thus showing criminal mischief.

 

[Axxe55]

IF the guy really was a "peeping tom" it's also likely he may not even have a criminal record.

I'd look at other possible police call of a similar nature, where no one was found or charged with a crime in that neighborhood. If the guy was on foot, he probably didn't venture very far from home.

 

[candcallen]

Or she could articulate that the dead guy was about to “paint” her wall outside the bedroom window without permission, thus showing criminal mischief.

Shaking his can.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I would have moved to a different part of the house and dialed 911 and if he broke in then shoot him.

 

[greggtex]

Gonna disagree with most. Unless he was actively trying to get to her, displaying a weapon, or known to her via prior threats, I'm not getting "feared for her life" out of this.
If I were on a jury and more facts given, possibly/probably. Teen looking to communicate with his gf, as one said guy whose dog got away and ran, etc... many scenarios in which this not a realistic threat warranting deadly force.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Gonna disagree with most. Unless he was actively trying to get to her, displaying a weapon, or known to her via prior threats, I'm not getting "feared for her life" out of this.
If I were on a jury and more facts given, possibly/probably. Teen looking to communicate with his gf, as one said guy whose dog got away and ran, etc... many scenarios in which this not a realistic threat warranting deadly force.

It doesn't matter what else he might have been doing, it is what she reasonably believed he was doing.



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[TexasDude]

When I was a little too young to drink, I got a somewhat inebriated, and walked into the wrong house...actually snuck in so mom and dad wouldn't wake up. I was very lucky I wasn't shot.

 

[candcallen]

If his fingerprints are on the window...

We don't have all the facts. Property owners/residents in texas at night have more latitude than most other states. I dont think it's bad at all. I also think its reasonable for a woman to see a peeping perv and instantly fear for her life.

There is no reasonable reason whatsoever for him to have violated the fence/property line at night and be peeping in the window. Plenty of what ifs but none that effect her reasonable fear in that moment.

I wouldnt shoot as my first reaction but that option would damn well enter my mind as a top option and I wouldnt think it unreasonable nor unrealistic for her to respond that way. I guarantee you she could dial 911 and him be into her home before she could get her call for help complete much less get help there. You violate the integrity of someone's property and peek in a ladies window at night you bought the full ride. It's on you.

 

[candcallen]

When I was a little too young to drink, I got a somewhat inebriated, and walked into the wrong house...actually snuck in so mom and dad wouldn't wake up. I was very lucky I wasn't shot.

Yes you were

 

[Axxe55]

Gonna disagree with most. Unless he was actively trying to get to her, displaying a weapon, or known to her via prior threats, I'm not getting "feared for her life" out of this.
If I were on a jury and more facts given, possibly/probably. Teen looking to communicate with his gf, as one said guy whose dog got away and ran, etc... many scenarios in which this not a realistic threat warranting deadly force.

I have a question. If it was your house he was peeping into, and had crossed the boundaries of your fenced in yard, how would you respond then?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

My GFs ex broke into our garage one night years ago, my dog alerted me from a dead sleep.
I was in the kitchen with a gun, and told him that if he tried to come through the door, I'm shooting.
He left and was arrested down the road.

 

[benenglish]

If the guy was on foot, he probably didn't venture very far from home.

QFT. The one peeping Tom I've ever experienced was when I was a kid. He came around multiple times over a period of years, first looking at my sister through her bedroom window and later, after sis went off to college, looking at my mom. When we finally identified him, he turned out to be a kid my age who lived across the street, about 5 houses down. The guy had started peeping when he was maybe 12 years old. God only knows how many windows he visited over the years.

 

[Axxe55]

QFT. The one peeping Tom I've ever experienced was when I was a kid. He came around multiple times over a period of years, first looking at my sister through her bedroom window and later, after sis went off to college, looking at my mom. When we finally identified him, he turned out to be a kid my age who lived across the street, about 5 houses down. The guy had started peeping when he was maybe 12 years old. God only knows how many windows he visited over the years.

Unless they happen to get caught, most people are not even aware of their deviant behavior.

And even if they do get caught once, who knows how many times they have done it, or for how long before they did get caught.

 

[baboon]

Gas company meter readers aren’t in peoples yards at 11:30 at night.

I think most utility reading is now done remote from a vehicle!