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Permission to carry on otherwise posted property: document needed?

Discussion in 'General Firearms & Ammo' started by cpileri, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. cpileri

    cpileri Active Member

    OK, lets say that you go visit a museum or something, a privately owned place, that is posted 30.06. But the owner says, "i want to give you permission to carry here."

    What would some sample language for such a document giving permission need to say?

    Something like; "I, cpileri, owner of 'this 30.06-posted place", and speaking as the owner/with the authority of the owner of said property; do hereby give _'cpileri's buddy'- permission to carry his handgun in a manner otherwise in acccordance with applicable Texas CHL laws. This permission applies indefinitely until otherwise revoked by me. Signed, cpileri on this day -(date)-"

    Then the standard form i was brainstorming on this thread:
    http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...ements-protection-third-persons-property.html
    protection of 3rd party property with an indemnity clause could be added.

    It might be few circumstances where this permission would be given, but could come in handy to keep you out of legal trouble if you got it.

    What do you think? anyone have any advice on the language?

    nevermind that no one may ever actually get such a permission slip. That's another question.

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  2. Booyah

    Booyah Active Member

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    I am certainly not going to attempt an acutal "answer" to this situation but the first thought I had was this...since we are talking about private property, if you truly do have permission from the 'owner/person in control' of the property to carry on that property then how could you get in trouble? Who would call the cops? I don't know all the in's and out's but isn't the violation of 30.06 considered trespassing...criminal trespassing...but trespassing none the less? Doesn't an accusation of trespassing usually come from the property owner/controler?
     
  3. jordanmills

    jordanmills TGT Addict

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    First, you would stop manually "signing" every post you make. There's a reason most people turn that off.
     
  4. txinvestigator

    txinvestigator TGT Addict

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    OP, you do not need anything in writing. What language might be included in some written permission really can be pretty simple.

    Again, you are over thinking.
     
  5. oohrah

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    are you talking about being an unofficial security guard (protecting 3rd party!)? because that's got all kinds of illegal on it.
     
  6. Koinonia

    Koinonia Well-Known

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    I believe what he wants, is to know that if he has permission from the Property owner to carry, on an otherwise valid 30.06 posted property. Theres nothing illegal about carrying with permission.

    If he was being paid to carry with the specific purpose to protect the property, that would be illegal without a commission, and through a Private Security Provider, I believe.
     
  7. cpileri

    cpileri Active Member

    Koinonia- you're right, i just want permission in writing.

    TXI- you're right, too; i tend to over think.

    oohrah- no not at all. just say your buddy own a shop and posts it 30.06 but wants you to be able to carry there legally. Your buddy is not always there, sometimes he has someone else working the place, so he wants to give you a note that says "I own the place and I say cpileri can carry here". Just to save you and the police the hassle of misunderstanding if the occasion for you to use your sidearm occurs when your buddy-the-owner is not present.

    booyah- similarly, say you had the owner's verbal permission. OK, I get it: I am legally covered- EVENTUALLY. but if owner is not there, and the unthinkable happens and you use your pistol. you now hang around like a good citizen whiel the police come and investigate. They see you shot the bad guy, and then see that the place is posted- you potentially get to spend some time waiting for your owner buddy to say he gave you permission. that time may well be unpleasant or in an unpleasant place. i am trying to avoid that.

    Jordanmills- what's your problem, man?

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    Last edited: Sep 18, 2013

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