POLYMER-COATED STEEL-CASED .45 ACP AMMO??

[satx78247]

Friends,

I'm looking for INFORMATION and/or ADVICE upon firing "range ammo" made in SERBIA that is "advertised as" being "fully suitable" for use in ALL "quality, modern handguns" in my "new to me" 1911A1 "WWII STYLE" clone.
(OBVIOUSLY, ammo makers can CLAIM almost anything & I'm "too old of a bunny" to try their ammo without knowing if it is likely to be OK or not.)

I know NOTHING about such "polymer-coated steel cases" & despite the fact that the 1911A1 "clone" that i bought is just a "shooter grade" pistol, I do not want to needless damage the handgun and/or damage MYSELF, while trying to save some $$$$$. = The company's advertising states that the ammo is equal in quality to the "WWII-era US issue".
(The Serbian ammo is "said to be" 230 grain FMJ at 850FPS & about 38 cents each, IF you buy 500 pieces or more, with FREE S&H.)

yours, satx

 

[Axxe55]

Brand of the ammo, and who is selling it might be helpful. Maybe even a link to the site selling it?

 

[TexMex247]

It's probably just rebranded PPU(academy's monarch house brand). All of their stuff has been loaded to safe levels ime through a large variety of calibers I've shot.

The number one hang up with steel is the imperfect seal because it's so rigid. It's always going to leave a little more residue on your chamber since it won't seal up as well as brass as it's fired. It will dirty up a gun faster.

It may also be a little harder on your extractor. If it runs an internal extractor I would be inclined to wait til you can get some brass ammo. If it's a true Colt clone it will have the internal extractor. Either way it will shoot fine and pressure level should be a non issue.

 

[satx78247]

It's probably just rebranded PPU(academy's monarch house brand). All of their stuff has been loaded to safe levels ime through a large variety of calibers I've shot.

The number one hang up with steel is the imperfect seal because it's so rigid. It's always going to leave a little more residue on your chamber since it won't seal up as well as brass as it's fired. It will dirty up a gun faster.

It may also be a little harder on your extractor. If it runs an internal extractor I would be inclined to wait til you can get some brass ammo. If it's a true Colt clone it will have the internal extractor. Either way it will shoot fine and pressure level should be a non issue.

TexMex247,

THANK YOU for your advice.
(I've never fired a single round of steel cased ammo, much less "polymer-coated".)

yours, satx

 

[TexMex247]

Happy to help. The polymer cases usually have a grey appearance while the old fashioned lacqer coated are more greenish. For pistols, I prefer the polymer although I mostly shoot my reloads these days. The polymer just slows the oxidation of them but they'll still show rust in an open air setting after a while.

 

[zackmars]

It's probably just rebranded PPU(academy's monarch house brand). All of their stuff has been loaded to safe levels ime through a large variety of calibers I've shot.

The number one hang up with steel is the imperfect seal because it's so rigid. It's always going to leave a little more residue on your chamber since it won't seal up as well as brass as it's fired. It will dirty up a gun faster.

It may also be a little harder on your extractor. If it runs an internal extractor I would be inclined to wait til you can get some brass ammo. If it's a true Colt clone it will have the internal extractor. Either way it will shoot fine and pressure level should be a non issue.

I don't think PPU makes steel case, do they?

 

[no2gates]

I don't think PPU makes steel case, do they?

I thought they made some of the Monarch steel cased stuff at Academy?

 

[TexMex247]

It may be barnaul rebranded as monarch.

 

[Axxe55]

Was why I suggested the OP specify the brand and where the ammo was being sold at. He mentioned free shipping, so that to me indicates possibly an online sale.

 

[Analog Kid]

I don't think PPU makes steel case, do they?

PPU makes over 70 different calibers of ammo.. many are steel cased.

 

[Analog Kid]

Barnaul is Russian.. Tula is Russian.. wolf is Tula.. monarch is Barnaul.. Belom is Serbian.. and on it goes.

 

[satx78247]

To All,

THANKS to ALL for the info & advice.

FYI, I have found a cache of 230 grain FMJ "GI issue-style" ammo in brass (at for what at this time is a "reasonable price" = 70 cents a round with free S&H) on the WWW.


yours, satx

 

[Byrd666]

Just FYI, Wolf and Tul are now separate entities.

 

[zackmars]

PPU makes over 70 different calibers of ammo.. many are steel cased.

Source? I have never seen a steel case marked PPU.

All ppu 5.56/.223, 9mm, 7.62x39 and 54r i've seen have been brass case.

They've been around awhile, so im sure somewhere they've made steel case for military contracts, but monarch steel case is not ppu

 

[Analog Kid]

Source? I have never seen a steel case marked PPU.

All ppu 5.56/.223, 9mm, 7.62x39 and 54r i've seen have been brass case.

They've been around awhile, so I'm sure somewhere they've made steel case for military contracts, but monarch steel case is not ppu

re-read.. I posted that monarch is Barnaul, as is Brown Bear.. PPU is also Serbian. I agree that we do-not see steel case PPU in the states.. sources tell me they do produce it, although I can't 100% confirm it... whoops, did I make a mistake..? am i allowed to do that?!!! You gentlemen straighten me out if I do!!!

 

[zackmars]

re-read.. I posted that monarch is Barnaul, as is Brown Bear.. PPU is also Serbian. I agree that we do-not see steel case PPU in the states.. sources tell me they do produce it, although I can't 100% confirm it... whoops, did I make a mistake..? am i allowed to do that?!!! You gentlemen straighten me out if I do!!!

Listen, i don't want to argue, but you said, and i quote "PPU makes over 70 different calibers of ammo.. many are steel cased."

Do you have any proof of PPU commercial ammo being steel case? I am asking out of curiosity, so i am not sure what the deal is with the attitude

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

I'm almost certain I have some steel ppu stuff . I'll dig around the ammo room when I get home.

... I was wrong. Checked 6 different monarch steel calibers. all barnull, The monarch brass was ppu.