Rave +1 Pearland LEO - Rant -10 Ross

thorkyl

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The other day I was at Ross in Pearland looking for some summer shirts that work well for CC and other things. After I made my purchase I was stopped by store security.

I was being accused of shoplifting. The "security guard" in front of God and everybody demanded I raise my shirt and show him what was under it. As I was carrying I was not going to do it. I told him I would be more than happy to do so but not in the public area of the store. He got on his radio and a moment latter he said the the police where on the way.

After about 20 minutes the LEO showed up. The guard told the LEO I was a shoplifter. We are still standing in front of the registers. LEO comes to me and asks for my ID so I give him both and tell him I am armed. Told him I had offered to raise my shirt to the guard but only in a non public area of the store.

We walked back to the office area of the store. I raised my shirt, the guard says "He has a gun, I want him arrested", LEO asked about the lack 30.06 signage. The guard said he did not care and once again demanded that I be arrested.

This is where the LEO earns his CUDO, not only did he ream that guard every which way but Sunday, but told the guard the next time a customer said that they would not raise their shirt in the public part of the store you could bet they are armed and he needed to apologize to me in public.

On my way our of the store I stopped at the register and got my $250+ back from my purchases while the guard got on the PA and apologized.

Will never go back to that Ross again.
 

GM.Chief

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KUDO'S to you for sticking to your guns...hehehe literally and KUDO'S to the officer for telling that security guard what a moron he is.
 

TxEMTP69

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could only imagine if the security guard tried to disarm you had he seen the gun before the LEO was there. good lord.

+1 for the LEO

Dare I ask if he ever gave reason as to why he thought you were shoplifting
 

Shorts

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Wow, that could have gone horribly wrong very quickly. Good work keeping a cool head and most certainly a huge thumbs up to the LEO.

If it were me, I'd write a nice letter to the LEO, the department and the local paper. You don't necessarily have to reveal details about the event rather acknowledge the excellent professionalism.


I'd also be writing a letter of a more serious sort to Ross
 

JKTex

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That's a pretty amazing story and a good one the way it turned out. The guy with the gun is the good guy, doing the right thing.

I don't think I'd be pissed at the store because of the security guard though. Most stores like that don't hire highly trained guards, just someone that provides a look that might deter theft. Kinda of like the sticker some people put on their front window saying they have a Security Alarm when, all they have is a sticker.

I would however, contact Ross regional folks to make sure they know what happened so they can make corrections with their guard service (assuming they don't have direct hired guards)

I'm assuming a start Manager was involved as well? If so, what was their reaction?

Cool story, although I'm sure pretty embarrassing at the moment.
 

Shorts

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could only imagine if the security guard tried to disarm you had he seen the gun before the LEO was there. good lord.

+1 for the LEO

Dare I ask if he ever gave reason as to why he thought you were shoplifting

Me too. I think he might have almost made you. Either you shifted the gun without realizing it or he saw a bulge under your clothes. Either way, its a good time to reevaluate the concealment just in case.
 

M. Sage

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You were falsely accused of shoplifting and you stopped? A bulge under the clothes is not even nearly good enough for store security to stop someone on suspicion of shoplifting. They have to see you take stuff for one thing.

There are six steps you need to go through to detain a shoplifter:

Shoplifting, Detention Arrest, security consultant, Chris McGoey, shoplifting, loss prevention expert
  1. You must see the shoplifter approach your merchandise
  2. You must see the shoplifter select your merchandise
  3. You must see the shoplifter conceal or carry away or convert your merchandise
  4. You must maintain continuous observation the shoplifter
  5. You must see the shoplifter fail to pay for the merchandise
  6. You must approach the shoplifter outside of the store
You could hit Ross' mall ninja with false arrest. I'd write a letter to his boss at the store and corporate pointing this fact out, and make sure he's canned ASAP. He had no business stopping you, and if he stays on the job long enough and does it enough times, he will meet someone willing to physically resist his unlawful arrest.

In fact, I'd consider filing charges against said mall ninja if you have his name, and the officer's name, especially if there's a police report on the incident (which you should have filed immediately IMO).

Kudos on the officer for reaming the loser for being an idiot.
 

baboon

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My wife sued Foley's for falsely accusing her of shoplifting 20 some years ago. Out court settlement was $60K. It's a shame they didn't strip search you. That Pearland cop messed up a good thing. If he would of took you down in todays money it would have to be worth $100K.
 

M. Sage

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^^ That's what I'm talking about!! Stupidity should hurt, and it does if you do your part!

Heaven help store security if they try taking me down when I've done nothing wrong. I don't CCW, but I will fight back.
 

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