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Round in the chamber?

Discussion in 'General Firearms & Ammo' started by clawmarks, May 9, 2020.

  1. clawmarks

    clawmarks Member

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    Let me start by saying - this is meant to be a discussion, not an argument. I'd like to share my thought process and learn from yours, I'm not questioning anyone's judgement, needless to say - you can (and should) carry however you feel like is best for you.

    Having said that, I'd like to better understand - how come so many people (majority?) are carrying with a round in the chamber?

    To me, concealed carry is all about risk management. For me, the gun's purpose is to protect the people I care about, myself, and others when facing extreme circumstances.
    That being said, I also understand that in reality the gun can inflict damage to the aforementioned group, so I'm always trying to find a balance. Case in point: Even though I'd like it to be quickly available in the case of intruder, I also don't want it to be available to guests (and/or dwellers) that may lack proper training or judgement - so the final outcome is locking it in a quick access safe instead of just keeping it in a drawer next to my bed.

    But that's not the point, I'm here to discuss about a round in the chamber -
    What's the difference between carrying with or without it?

    The positives: In case you got to the point of presenting the firearm, you're ready to engage without the delay of cocking it. Additionally, if you don't carry S/A D/A or revolver, you gain the benefit of single hand operation.

    The negatives: Significantly easier to misfire, riskier in a situations of someone getting their hands on the gun (even without malicious intent), generally can cause a lot more damage in case of any "user error".

    Now, I see myself as a responsible gun owner, but I also acknowledge the fact that probably 99.99% of the people that suffered any kind of self-inflicted accidental discharge (whether by themselves, or by someone they care about) also saw themselves this way, so if the entire argument is "it cannot happen to me because I'm me" then there's no actual discussion here.

    To me, it's about comparing probabilities - very very low probabilities, but since there's a HUGE damage involved it's important enough to evaluate. It seems to me that the probability of [having to present] x [failing to operate because of the extra step required] is lower than the probability of [any accidental discharge].

    What's your take on the subject?

    (and again, I'm not trying to prove me/you right/wrong(!), it's about sharing thoughts and learning from each other, if you sensed that I mean something else then please know that I didn't)
     


  2. ZX9RCAM

    ZX9RCAM Over the Rainbow bridge... TGT Supporter

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    I hope you keep a round chambered in your carry gun.

    At home should be slightly more forgiving, but every gun I have which is loaded, has a round in the chamber.

    I don't have to worry about kids or guests in my home.
     
  3. sidebite252

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  4. Shady

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    So your attacker has one hand held up good luck moving the slide

    you hand is injured in the fight good luck with the slide

    the gun with a bullet in the chamber will not fire unless you pull the b ang switch
     
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  5. toddnjoyce

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    There’s about eleventy billion words written on this subject.
     
  6. Jarine88

    Jarine88 Active Member

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    My 1911 is carried cocked and locked. My striker fire pistols always have one in the chamber.
     
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  7. BuzzinSATX

    BuzzinSATX Active Member

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    My take is this...

    You should maintain YOUR gun in a manner that is safe and most comfortable for YOU. PERIOD.

    All guns not on my person in my home are either loaded or not.

    All loaded guns are either readily accessible and hidden, or in my safe at the ready, and have a full magazine and an empty chamber.

    I carry striker fire guns with a loaded chamber. I didn’t at first.

    In the military, when deployed, unless we were outside the wire, our weapons were all in condition 3 (loaded mags, empty chambers), and we had to stop upon entering the base and clear them at the gate.

    My thoughts on carry guns are it is ALL a personal choice. Carry the firearm you are comfortable with, in the condition you are most comfortable with, based on your level of competency and confidence.

    Folks who say carrying on an empty chamber is like carrying a brick are wrong, because of several reasons, the most obvious being “you can’t turn a brick into a gun.”

    1. The odds of you actually needing your concealed carry are extremely rare.

    2. The odds of you needing it immediately, at bad breath distance, are even more rare.

    3. The majority of the times you may need your firearm, you will have time to draw it and run the slide and turn your brick into a gun.

    4. If you are safe and can operate your carry gun, I’d prefer you carry it in with/on an empty chamber rather than not carrying it at all. Again, if needed, it goes from brick to gun in an instant.

    5. If you live or work in a bad area where the odds of you needing to draw your gun are higher than average, I suggest you train hard to get to carrying with a loaded chamber...but only when you are confident and feel safe about it.

    yes, there are obviously downsides to an empty chamber. But many folks don’t have the proficiency to draw fast and accurate and engage a threat safely...those people are better to take immediate evasive action like run or hide and draw the gun from a safe place.

    There are a thousand scenarios I can think of that will play out on either side of this argument in a thousand different ways due to a bunch of variables. No right answer for any of them...

    The more you carry and train with your firearm, the more proficient and confident you will become, and you may get to the point where you choose to carry on a loaded chamber.

    Carrying a gun is a personal choice...I don’t worry about what others say, who won’t be responsible for MY actions.
     
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  8. GoPappy

    GoPappy Active Member Lifetime Member

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    :popcorn:

    If I was going to carry without a round in the chamber, I’d rather just carry a club.
     
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  9. Kar98

    Kar98 TGT Addict

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    Many of them right in OP's post, it seems.
     
  10. vmax

    vmax TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    OP said this is not a discussion
    So why are people replying?

    This thread should be OPs post and that's all.
     


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