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  1. Texas Solo

    Texas Solo Active Member

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    30.06.com lists the SA International airport as posted 30.06
    Can anyone verify this ???
    Obviously we're talking about being on this side of security.
     


  2. txinvestigator

    txinvestigator TGT Addict

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    SA International is government owned. Therefore 30.06 would not be applicable to you there; sign or not.

    Of course, the secured area is still off limits.
     
  3. Texas Solo

    Texas Solo Active Member

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    Thank you. I seem to be at the airport at least once a month.
     
  4. biglucky

    biglucky Well-Known TGT Supporter

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    I travel almost full time and it really cracks me up to see the 51% sign in the bar at the airport... :)
     
  5. okie556

    okie556 Well-Known

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    :lolz:

    Same here and at other airports all of the place. These are bars deep within airport infrastructure afteryou have gone through airport screening.

    Okie556
     
  6. JKTex

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    It's silly, but it's an overlap and they are still required to post the sign based on their TABC license.

    Keep in mind, a 51% "sign" does not keep you from carrying in the establishment. Obviously in this case that is moot.

    And as an add, 30.06.com is a great idea that is near worthless. No one follows the rules and guidelines he has set up. If they did, 75% of what is reported would not be reported and it would be a much better resource.
     
  7. 40Arpent

    40Arpent TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    I know you are familiar with the law:

    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H. Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
    person:
    (1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued
    under Chapter 25,28,32,69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if
    the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or
    service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption....


    So, while the actual sign doesn't prevent you, it notifies you of the fact that the establishment falls under "prohibited places." No?
     
  8. JKTex

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    Actually, "no" is correct. ;) The sign, or lack thereof, means nothing to a CHL holder except they need to make a decision as to just not carry, or investigate further. It's pretty easy to know when you walk into a place whether it may or may not be. If it's used properly, the sign makes you aware it "might" me a 51% establishment. The TABC license is what determines if they are a 51% establishment or not.

    The 51% sign is probably the most mis-used sign there is. Establishments with food/beverage licenses erroneously post it, retail stores post it, and all should be reported to TABC for correction. Many cities do not allow an establishment to derive more than 50% of the revenue from alchohol sales (like Plano). However, I've heard of people reporting establishments in Plano as having a 51% sign up when it is not possible for it to be a 51% establishment. I'll carry all day long in one of them.

    If you walk into a restaurant that has a bar and you see the sign, check the license and 99% of the time you'll find they are NOT a 51% establishment because they have a "food and beverage" license which does not permit 51% sales derived from alcohol. If you walk into a bar, chances are it IS a 51% establishment, whether the sign is up or not.

    I'm actually surprised someone caught that as quick as you did. :rofl: People make a much bigger deal out of 51% than needs to be. It should be very obvious which is and which is not.
     
  9. txinvestigator

    txinvestigator TGT Addict

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    The TABC rules require the posting of the 51% sign at all establishments that are 51%, regarldess of where they are located.

    That said, the absence of a sign is not a defense if you carry in a 51% place, and it is not an offense to carry in a non-51% location that is wrongly posted.

    Well poot...should have read more before replying; JKTex hit the nail on the head.
     
  10. Big country

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    So if I had a CHL and did NOT remove my weapon before entering say a liquor store, I would not be in violation of the law?
     

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