San Antonio gun store owner speaks out against open carry

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  1. FreedomJoyAdventure

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    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/politics/35433269.html

    "You might think gun owners would say that is a great thing, but those who know guns the best say, "Not so fast."
    Gun storeowner and concealed handgun instructor Jerry McCall is opposed to open carry.
    He says police, who carry their guns out in the open, use more expensive holsters that secure the gun in three places, making it less likely that a criminal can steal it and use it against them.
    But not everyone pays for the better, more expensive holsters, making them and their gun a target to a potential criminal.
    "There is that gun sticking out for the whole world to grab, and all it takes is one idiot," McCall said."

    This fellow needs the Jim Zumbo treatment. Apparently he has never been to Arizona, where citizens have been carrying openly for years, and it hasn't been a problem. Are we to believe that we Texans are somehow inferior to Arizonans when it comes to firearms competence? I don't think so.

    I must say I'm long out of patience for people in the firearms business speaking out publicly against the Second Amendment, or more freedom for the rest of us (e.g. Jim Zumbo, Joaquin Jackson, Bill Ruger, etc.).

    "First they came for the machine guns, and I didn’t speak up because I had no machine guns.
    Then they came for the “assault weapons,” and I didn't speak up because I had no assault weapons.
    Then they came for the rifles, and I didn't speak up because I had no rifles.
    Then they came for the handguns, and I didn't speak up because I had no handguns.
    Finally, they came for my double-barreled shotgun, and I only managed to kill two of them. (before they mowed me down with their machine guns, assault weapons, rifles and handguns (while I was trying to reload))."

    "We must all hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately" - Benjamin Franklin

    "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek neither your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
     


  2. juwaba98

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    What gun store does he own? I'd reccomend boycotting his establishment if he thinks we common folk aren't responsible enough to carry the weapons he sells. I suppose in his fine establishment he has taken all of the cheap non-retention holsters out of his inventory so that he is only selling the "safest" holsters available as well. Sounds like a man that doesn't realize he may well be biting the hands that feed him.:hammerhead:
     
  3. FreedomJoyAdventure

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    Jerry McCall owns Texas Guns of San Antonio, Arrowhead Gun Shop in Kerrville Texas and Texas Thunder Range in San Antonio, according to this

    And yes, he sells guns, but doesn't trust Texans to actually carry them? I think he should be boycotted straight out of business for his pompous, condescending, elitist attitude.
     
  4. Pawdog

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    "Gun store owner and concealed handgun instructor Jerry McCall is opposed to open carry".

    The above line says why he's against it. He teaches a concealed carry course, and will lose money when open carry is legalized. I too would not buy from this idiot, as he does not think gun owners, his customer base, can be trusted to carry openly what he sells!:fighting0010:
     
  5. hoytinak

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    Yep, that's it right there.
     
  6. Furyataurus

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    I know exactly where that RIP off store is. When I was looking to buy my first handgun I went there and asked how much for an HK USP 9 and they said $1K!!!!! Then I went to Nagle's and they wanted $950!!!! And later one of my friends put me into contact with an FFL dealer who got me my HK USP 9 for $800 out the door. Later I saw an NIB HK USP 9 for $615 a year later at saxet!!!!:banghead:
     
  7. Hoji

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    CHL instructor. Says it all.
     
  8. Shorts

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    "CHL" on the whole shouldn't be worried. Any OCer is a gun carrier - period. Even when they travel. They still need a TX CHL for reciprocity purposes during out of state travel...with the caveat at the person cannot carry OC or CC without any permit. Anyone go to Vermont often?

    So, now, "CHL" is NOT a reason.
     
  9. ST5MF

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    I went to his shop years ago. He had an plain GI style M1A there for $2500! About $1K over the market value. His prices are way above retail; only the uneducated/ill-informed must buy from him. I believe Arrowhead in Kerrville went under a long time ago...

    He is definetely a rip-off artist! He wants $50 a month to use his range! I pay $100 a year to use a range in Southern California!; and unlike his range I can bring my own blanking ammo!

    Check out rule #4 and #11.

    I like the fact he uses "orders" instead of directions in rule #2.


    Why the "bleep" does your bag need to be inspected?
    1. Shooters must follow all posted range rules.
    2. Shooters must follow the Range Master's orders.
    3. Shooting is adult entertainment - you must be 18 years or older unless accompanied by an adult to participate. Anyone under 21 years of age is prohibited from possessing or shooting handguns at this range without adult supervision.
    4. Shooters must use ammo purchased at Texas Guns.
    5. Persons under the influence of Alcohol or illegal substances will not be allowed to shoot.
    6. Proper dress: no shorts, no sandals. Pants and closed toed shoes are required.
    7. Proper safety equipment - Eye and Ear Protection must be worn at all times.
    8. Only firearms in perfect working condition will be allowed on the Range.
    9. If you have a mechanical problem and need assistance, place your Firearm on shelf and alert the Range Master.
    10. All shooters are required to stay behind the shooting line.
    11. Shooters are required to pick up spent brass or push it over the shooting line for the Range Master to collect.
    12. No Food and Drinks are allowed in the range at any time.
    13. All Range Bags/gun cases will be inspected by the Range Master prior to entering the range.
    So like his firearms pricing you will probably have to pay through the nose to use his ammo and then he keeps the most expensive component- the "brass."

    The big mystery to me is how this crook stays in business? I know he is an AirFarce Vet too. If I ever make it back to TX; I may just open my own range and put this "crook" out of business!
     
  10. Shorts

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    Alright, let me explain rule #4 and #11 in general.

    4. Shooters must use ammo purchased at Texas Guns.

    While I dislike the 'scam' of purchasers required to buy from the range itself, most indoor ranges specify the type of ammo that can be shot. Ranges are build specifically to handle certain types. I side on "personal responsibility" side of shooters bringing the proper ammo. But as a business owner, with my butt on the line, its up to me to enforce and be certain my terms are met or risk liability.


    11. Shooters are required to pick up spent brass or push it over the shooting line for the Range Master to collect.

    In what world do you not pick up spent brass????? :headscratch: Indoor ranges it is common courtesy and general user's rules to sweep your brass. Behind the firing lines are brooms and those folding dust pans on a stick. Use them! And this just isn't an indoor range thing either. Outdoor ranges also require cleaning up your brass, usually when the firing line is covered and a cement foundation/floor is laid down. Respect the place! It is not yours - you a merely a visitor!


    Overall, I see no issue with his posted rules. This is his place and when he is responsible for the safety of the patrons its up to him to control the environment as best as possible.

    "Orders of the RM" - while I hate the nanny state thing, on the firing line, there are all k indsof shooters...from well skilled to brand new to plain stupid. A RMs job is to keep everyone safe out there and if he says "Range cold!" you darn well need to listen without questioning. Disobeying calls pout there can get someone hurt of killed.


    I know I'm preaching to the choir here. But don't rag on this guy for everything under the sun because he disagrees with OC. Stick to legitimate complaints. I just don't see rule #4 or #11 as problems. I never been in his place so I can't speak for the prices or his general character or friendliness.
     
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