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School shooting suspect made 'disturbing' social media posts

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by Ranger550, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Wildcat Diva

    Wildcat Diva Well-Known

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    I’m very disappointed in the Sheriff’s answers and the NRA Spokeswoman’s answers to this town hall.

    They are throwing mental health under the bus. Wanting to take people’s rights “before” they are a danger to anyone. Law enforcement “shouldn’t have to wait” for someone to be a danger to self or others they can take people somewhere ahead of that to be evaluated and say “yeah, do it” and their guns and rights get taken away “forever” and “they should never get them back.”

    Uh yeah, nothing is gonna go wrong with this picture. No likelihood of abuse of power here.

    Also, people are gonna run as far as they can from mental health “help” lest it be used against them.
     


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  2. Shady

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    well if they have to run from mental health at least they will be known as crazy and a danger due to not getting the meds.

    And not some wolf in sheep clothing just waiting to decide to stop taking the only thing keeping them sane and bust a cap in a bunch of people.
     
  3. grasshopperglock

    grasshopperglock Petrol Distillate

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    The U.S. is only two nations on earth that allow pharmaceutical garbage to be marketed directly to the public. Lone wolf this, pills that. Same old talking head points.

    Seems like a whole lot of trust in a government deciding who's sane enough for their rights. But if the mental health boogeyman helps people sleep. Give up even more freedom. Carl Marx's corpse is getting a boner.
     
  4. Wildcat Diva

    Wildcat Diva Well-Known

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    Who are “they?” The millions of people who seek mental health treatment and deserve a right to self defense? The VAST majority of whom are no harm to anyone?

    Anyone who has depression? Anyone who’s ever had an aggressive thought or a suicidal thought?

    And if they don’t get treatment in the first place due to fears of consequences (loss of rights) how would they be “known?” I don’t get that.
     
  5. Wildcat Diva

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    This “stigma” that’s out there now and getting bigger, expanding by the second is going to mean a DECLINE in effective mental health care, MARK MY WORDS.

    Don’t think that’s going to have a very good outcome.

    And if society puts it all (legally) on MH professionals who are not ABLE to accurately predict dangerousness... well good luck keeping good providers. There are enough risks just doing this for a living without that added pressure.
     
  6. avvidclif

    avvidclif RFTW 2010

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    With all due respects Diva it sounds like our mental health care providers have all the accuracy of a weather forecaster. Mother nature and a nutcase are about as predictable.

    Just trying to throw a little levity into a discussion I am enjoying but don't have any answers for. Nice to have a pro in here.
     
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  7. Wildcat Diva

    Wildcat Diva Well-Known

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    That’s ok. We, as providers, diagnose and treat mental illness. That’s not the same as predicting dangerous behavior. Totally not in our scope. Not our area.
     
  8. easy rider

    easy rider Allotropic Transformer TGT Supporter

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    I've gone through periods of depression (Divorce, Loss of father, lose of mother and certainly when I lost my fiance to cancer, which lasted for over a year for me), I would hate to think that any those periods someone could have diagnosed me as unfit to own handguns. Who is the one that says at a certain degree of mental illness you lose your rights? And what would be the line?

    I certainly understand patterns of behavior over time, but is it the symptom or the treatment that preclude you from owning guns?
     
  9. Shady

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    I have no clue where to draw the line but if you have the cops called on you 39 times in 7 years that is a clear indication you are in need of more than a pill and a pat on the back.



     
  10. DwnRange

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    So what would you say about the metal heath of folks screaming "BURN HER" here at your NRA spokeswoman (posted above) latest townhall meeting in FL.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...n_hall_if_i_didnt_have_a_security_detail.html
     


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