Seeking "Assault Weapon" & "Cop Killer Bullet" Ban ...

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by Stephen A. Camp, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. Stephen A. Camp

    Stephen A. Camp Member

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    This is the text of an email I just sent an informal group that I keep updated on Second Amendment Issues. I thought it might be of interest to the faithful here.

    "This time the excuse is the problems in Mexico. Of course, corruption within the Mexican military, police and government would play no role in this. I wonder if that’s just too close to the corrupt Chicago politics that spawned this lying punk who is now President? I don’t know about you, but I am more than upset at seeing my rights as an American being eroded by the illegal actions of foreign criminals.

    What are the bastards going to define “cop killer bullets” as: armor piercing or expanding? Will they set a velocity threshold? Who can say? Do not expect either of these to be either “fair” or “right”.
    Their ultimate goal is the disarming of the US citizen. Never forget that and never doubt it.

    Those who claim to believe in the Second Amendment and somehow think that Obama and his ilk won’t try and disarm us are deluding themselves.

    Here’s the link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=6960824&page=2

    Here’s the copied & pasted text:

    Attorney General Says White House Also Looking at Ban on 'Cop-Killer' Bullets
    By JASON RYAN
    WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009

    The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

    "As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

    Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

    "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

    Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.

    A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.

    "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."

    At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence.

    "I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said.

    Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however.

    "It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the sequencing will be."

    In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."

    During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.

    "I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.

    The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds.

    "A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution."


    Inform everyone you know of this and ask that they contact their elected officials. In previous emails I sent you different methods of contacting your representatives and senators. Just in case it got lost, here’s the link again:

    http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

    Will you do your part? Please don’t count on others to carry your end of the load.

    Stephen A. Camp"

    Best.
     


  2. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

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    Just when I think it's safe to start paying my debt down quicker, stuff like this just reassures me that all my extra money is better spent buying guns and ammo. ;)
     
  3. biglucky

    biglucky Well-Known TGT Supporter

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    Some of the smartest financial minds I know (and they are perty smart ) say that right now is a bad time to pay down debt. Right now is the time to get in as much debt as you possibly can. I don't know how I feel about that, but since I personally doubt that our money is going to be worth the paper it is printed on within a few months it might not be that bad of a suggestion.

    Anyway...
     
  4. Furyataurus

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    Wow, not even 2 months in and they already shoot themselves in the foot!!!! lol. It's OVER for them now.
     
  5. Slotback

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    I am surprised we didn't see this on January 21.
     
  6. Stephen A. Camp

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    Just in...

    Here’s the link: TheHill.com - Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban

    Here’s the text:

    Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban
    By Mike Soraghan
    Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

    Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

    “On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

    Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

    The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.


    I think that she’s more upset at not being in the loop than what she said. I hope that I am wrong and that democrats are afraid “to take on gun issues”. The sad part is that that they should want to take on gun issues. They should be supporting the Second Amendment and protecting the US Constitution rather than trying to erode it.

    Stephen A. Camp
     
  7. JKTex

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    The funny part of the whole Mexico angle is, they've been using all kinds of weapons down there for over 100 years. When AK's were available, they had them by the rack full.

    The way Mexican Law Enforcement operates is the way it has for longer than any of us have been around. It won't change. They'll use Winchester carbine's or AK's or AR-15's. They'll do the same thing, using whatever weapons they can get.

    And the "cop killer bullet" issue? WTF are they? If a .22 short can kill a human, aren't they then a "Cop Killer" as well? And the elusive "Gun show loophole" that they never do define?

    It's the same old game, write laws that restrict lawful citezens and ignore the fact that problems that speak of are done by those already breaking laws. They won't stop because there's a new law.

    I'm not so worried about this coming to fruition, but law makers need to hear voices nonetheless.
     
  8. 95P38RR

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    How did the Bush administration not do that? lol What a dumb Nazi Pelosi.
     
  9. Gopher

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    In the Anti's eyes any round that will penetrate a policeman's vest is a "cop killer." It doesn't have to come from an EBR either. This should be a wakeup call to the hunter as well as the sport shooter. Madam speaker still remembers what happened in 1994 after they passed the first ban. She does not want to jeopardize their new found majority right now.
     
  10. Texas42

    Texas42 TGT Addict

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    I think the the "gun show" loophole is private transfer.

    My favorite part is were Pelosi says he didn't talk to her about it. . . . . I just hope my parts get here before they get their gumption on a new AWB.

    I think that is the Democrat's default position is to blame Bush. They don't have any other line. It got old about five years ago, though I don't think they will stop using it for the next couple decades.
     

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