Selling a Rifle really that easy in TX?

[valegian]

My apologies to all. I know this subject probably comes up many times. Obviously I am new to TX private sales (born here in TX but raised in Kommiefornia since I was 4, now 35). But is it really as easy as checking for TX ID, cash, bill of sale (generic one available online), and a handshake for my rifle?

 

[Southpaw]

No bill of sale and you are about to be told why.....

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[robertc1024]

My apologies to all. I know this subject probably comes up many times. Obviously I am new to TX private sales (born here in TX but raised in Kommiefornia since I was 4, now 35). But is it really as easy as checking for TX ID, cash, bill of sale (generic one available online), and a handshake for my rifle?

No - easier than that. NO BOS. Paperwork trouble that could lead back to you. Money and a handshake is all it really needs. TX ID is not a bad idea if you have reservations.

 

[valegian]

Wow. I assumed that a BOS was a good way to CYA. Where do you guys usually complete the transaction? Im so used to filling out tons of paperwork and getting bent over by the state at an FFL for a private party transfer where the buyer must pay $35 and THEN wait 11 days to pick up the firearm.

 

[Southpaw]

Walmart parking lot during daylight hours.

 

[robertc1024]

Bass pro in the daylight. C'mon man, you're free. Live it.

 

[TXAZ]

Welcome to Texas.
In the event that you buy a weapon that was stolen or used in a crime, or sell one that is subsequently used in a crime, it is INCREDIBLY HELPFUL to deflect suspicion from yourself and back to the perp, by having contact info from the seller / buyer/ perp.

 

[BG1960]

phht. ACADEMY parking lots. Welcome back to Texas.

 

[TXAZ]

Bass pro in the daylight. C'mon man, you're free. Live it.

+1
i bought a nice Sig from a cop on a stakeout in a Bass Pro parking lot after dark.

(Top that one

 

[BG1960]

Welcome to Texas.
In the event that you buy a weapon that was stolen or used in a crime, or sell one that is subsequently used in a crime, it is INCREDIBLY HELPFUL to deflect suspicion from yourself and back to the perp, by having contact info from the seller / buyer/ perp.

Really? Have you experienced this???

 

[valegian]

You guys are awesome! I truly do appreciate all the info. Texas is great!

 

[TXAZ]

Really? Have you experienced this???

Not personally, but I did have a coworker get a visit from from the cops about HIS gun recovered at the scene of a homicide. Luckily he had a BOS and details from the buyer's (turned out to be the shooters) DL.
Never bought or sold a gun without that afterwards.

 

[Glockster69]

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/gun-legislation/47447-bill-sale.html

That thread is recent enough. I suggest reading front to back for full context.

Do not skip final post.

 

[F350-6]

Don't forget Kroger parking lots. After all they've been standing up to the whiny moms so their parking lots need some support too.

 

[Charlie]

Just sell it, you are NOT required to prove anything and neither is the buyer! If you ask, and the answer is something you know is illegal, then you may have some issues if it turns to chit later.

 

[Vaquero]

A clear conscience is all I need.
Plus cash.

 

[Younggun]

BOS has gotten more people in trouble than it has ever gotten out of trouble.

Just because someone had one and didn't get in trouble in no way means they would have gotten in trouble without it. In fact, the interaction would have gone the same way.

I like Casa Ole parking lot. Also did on in the gun store Parking lot so I could easily go inside and spend the money I had just gotten from the sale.

 

[Byrd666]

...and if you do feel those hairs stand up, you can always say "no" and walk away. That I DO have experience with.

 

[Southpaw]

Most importantly, go with your gut. I like to talk to the person on the phone before meeting them and get a feel for them. Personally, I won't sell to someone throwing around a lot of street slang or that won't talk on the phone or will only text. I guess you sort of just develop a sense for people. I'm sure the members here who are have been LE can explain it better then me. Of course, nothing is 100% and if the guy is a good liar, even the trained eye might be fooled.

ETA-(Byrd666 seems to have summed it up better then I did above)

As as a note to the bill of sale, keep in mind that there are two kind of people out there. One who will never sell without one, and the other who will never buy when one is requested. You can read over past threads and make up your own mind about where you fall. I won't try to influence your decision on them.

 

[Mike1234567]

I ask the buyer if he's under indictment for domestic violence or assault or any felony or was convicted for any of those. No? Gimme money and rifle is yours... no BOS.