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  • iratollah

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    I don't particularly care to fight the right to bare arms. We already have the right to bare arms. In fact, during the summer, short sleeves are almost mandatory. I don't know why we would want to fight our existing right to bear arms either. Your post makes little sense.
     

    razor

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    I don't particularly care to fight the right to bare arms. We already have the right to bare arms. In fact, during the summer, short sleeves are almost mandatory. I don't know why we would want to fight our existing right to bear arms either. Your post makes little sense.
    Well we were all waiting for one of your nature to come out! As far as making sense your right . We do have the right . I want to keep it . If you do not think we have a problem here all you have to do is look at london , Great Britan? . One small change leads to another. The so called (Freedom of choice act) is not what it seems! It's actualy totaly reverse!!! I do not know about you but I'm a tax payer and I believe that the goverment should not have the right to force a clinic that does not want to perform abortions do just that . Also I do not want to have to pay for our countries abortions out of my taxes that have been paid just because people cant keep their legs closed! Not only that but the bill if passed will allow for our tax payers money to provide abortions in other foreign countries as well! Simply put ! This bill should be called "NO FREEDOM OR CHOICE ACT" !
     

    JKTex

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    The bottom line is, trying to push the issue of abortion out under the cover of gun rights is completely ridiculous.

    If you are indeed not just trying to garner support for your opinion on the subject of abortion, if you look at what you're saying, it appears that you support shooting down anything the new Administration tries to do in an effort to protect gun rights. It's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater or using a shotgun to kill a fly. We're smarter and more progressed than that. :patriot:

    It's not useful, especially another friggen on-line poll....
     

    Rob1796

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    There will never, ever, ever, ever be a time in this nation where abortion will be explicitly illegal. It is one fight the the right/right of center will always lose. To quote John Ross

    John Ross said:
    Abortion is NEVER going to be legally unavailable. NO ONE in a viable position of political power supports imprisoning women who have had abortions. So the worst that can happen is that abortions will cost more, because you may have to travel farther to get a safe, legal one. How many abortions might you need to have? Five in a lifetime? Ten? Ten trips to somewhere with safe, legal abortion doctors is a lot cheaper than losing most of what you have to Socialist fiscal policies or losing your life to terrorist attack. Get real.

    The right side of the aisle have much bigger fights to win before tackling abortion. I don't like abortion. I think its wrong. I don't like dumping tax monies into it. But it isn't going away. Abortion is to the right as gun control is to the left. We say "you don't have a right to take away our guns." Fine, they respond "you don't have the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do to her body."
     

    45tex

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    Not a well worded request. But not deserving of the small minded comments.
    Only takes a few seconds and its more important than guns.
    I signed it.
     

    iratollah

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    Well we were all waiting for one of your nature to come out!
    Someone of my nature? You mean someone who can spell? 2A says nothing about bare arms.

    Your attempt to make this other bill look like the camel's nose under the tent regarding the right to bear arms is so out of line that it left your credibility looking like a spent .25 casing rusting in the dirt.
     

    ChicagoTex

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    I believe in freedom, individual freedom and I will not dictate to someone what they can or cannot do based on someone elses religion or perceived morality.

    You and I are in absolute agreement. It's my attitude that on most social issues (and whether you like it or not, Abortion is a "social issue" - if for no other reason than it's not explicitly covered in the constitution) he who governs best governs least. I don't like abortions, would never want my wife/significant other to get one and would never encourage anyone I knew to get one under normal circumstances, but I also don't believe in the government stepping in and dictating how this issue should be handled.

    On the flipside, I don't agree with using taxpayer money to pay for elective abortions (i.e. situations where childbirth would not be life-threatening to the mother).

    Now allow me to confuse the issue further by weighing the cost of a taxpayer-paid abortion versus the cost of taxpayer-paid welfare and potentially DCFS housing. If you assume the parents will be fiscally irresponsible towards the child, we the taxpayers would save a great deal of money in the long run by financing the abortion.

    Cold? Maybe, but I'm not the one who brought up the funding issues, and I feel that national issues deserve such consideration from every angle.
     

    midnightrider

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    No I did not sight the petition.
    There's enough hypocrisy to go around on the abortion issue. The same group demanding an end to abortion and our government funding it are also screaming about the welfare babies and our tax dollars funding these large families.

    I am not in favor of abortion, but neither am I in favor of a government in Washington DC dictating morality to me. This may not be a good analogy, but just as it's my right to bare arms in self defense of home and family, is the right of a woman over her own body. In the end we all will answer to a higher power, I'll leave judgement to him... or her.
     

    45tex

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    No I did not sight the petition.
    There's enough hypocrisy to go around on the abortion issue. The same group demanding an end to abortion and our government funding it are also screaming about the welfare babies and our tax dollars funding these large families.

    I am not in favor of abortion, but neither am I in favor of a government in Washington DC dictating morality to me. This may not be a good analogy, but just as it's my right to bare arms in self defense of home and family, is the right of a woman over her own body. In the end we all will answer to a higher power, I'll leave judgement to him... or her.
    You don't want Washington to dictate morality to you. But you are fine with the immorality of Killing Babies. Incredible hypocrisy
     

    midnightrider

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    You don't want Washington to dictate morality to you. But you are fine with the immorality of Killing Babies. Incredible hypocrisy

    I won't even get into the what is "it" before birth debate. Just like you shouldn't be calling someone hypocritical just because your moral compass ends at the birth, that is unless you support government sponsored day-care, welfare, and will support these mothers and their children for as long as they need it.
     

    JKTex

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    You don't want Washington to dictate morality to you. But you are fine with the immorality of Killing Babies. Incredible hypocrisy


    In these ridiculous discussions, the person saying things like that are the ones that don't realize what they said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    You acknowledge that he doesn't want the Government dictating morality, but you're saying you should....well actually, you "are" dictating morality as you see it by what you said.

    Or are you saying the Federal Government should to dictate morality?

    Do you understand the hypocrisy? No need to answer.... :p
     
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