So, when do we secede?

[leVieux]

I absolutely believe that the U.S. goverment would LOVE a civil war and has been prodding it on for years in the hopes that a sizeable group of rebels would give the government forces an opportunity to annihilate them on camera for all to see. It would provide the feds with at least two great satisfactions: To gleefully slaughter patriots while the world watches the entertaining spectacle live AND to send an exemplary warning to any others contemplating the same idea. I think the feds are extremely dismayed that decadeds of patriot threats claiming, "just try and take ONE more liberty and we will go to war" have never come to fruition.

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Yes, exactly. . . . .

And they are trying to get us both speak “seditiously” and to start a small rebellion.

But, they don’t want the entire population up in arms, either.

Whoever coined “WWGOWEGA” had the right idea.

An old saying from the feudal era was; “One doesn’t slap the King, unless it is with sufficient force to knock his head off!”

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[Armybrat]

Lot of hot air generated around threads like this one.

You secessionists ain’t gonna do squat except generate more of it here.

 

[MountainGirl]

Lot of hot air generated around threads like this one.

You secessionists ain’t gonna do squat except generate more of it here.

Too bad it cant merge up with the Copypasta King's fart-boy problem.
Two asses, one stinky plug.

 

[Cool 'Horn Luke]

We're gonna need a bigger boat!

We're gonna need more.

 

[Whistler]

Have a bit of fun, this "poster" isn't serious, just twisting your tail.

If someone can't be bothered to educate themselves on a topic, their opinion is rendered irrelevant.

 

[leVieux]

Lot of hot air generated around threads like this one.

You secessionists ain’t gonna do squat except generate more of it here.

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Your attention & partication are not mandated, required, or even solicited.

Adios !

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[Chewbacca7685]

I’m curious about something and this isn’t so much specific to this thread topic. We all mostly have the same feelings regarding where the country is headed, constitutional infringement, government overreach, blatant corruption, weaponization of government agencies etc. Right? So why is it that when talk of actually trying to do something about it, no matter how minor, comes up it’s so heavily criticized? I get it, a lot of it ends up being just talk. But why not encourage a dialogue about it? If people are so against even discussing action on these things, even if it is mostly hot air, what are those people going to do when the problem comes to their doorstep? Get on their knees and hand everything over? Beg a blue helmet for forgiveness? Try telling them the boat story? Or just keep hiding?


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[MountainGirl]

I’m curious about something and this isn’t so much specific to this thread topic. We all mostly have the same feelings regarding where the country is headed, constitutional infringement, government overreach, blatant corruption, weaponization of government agencies etc. Right? So why is it that when talk of actually trying to do something about it, no matter how minor, comes up it’s so heavily criticized? I get it, a lot of it ends up being just talk. But why not encourage a dialogue about it? If people are so against even discussing action on these things, even if it is mostly hot air, what are those people going to do when the problem comes to their doorstep? Get on their knees and hand everything over? Beg a blue helmet for forgiveness? Try telling them the boat story? Or just keep hiding?


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I dont know, but those are good questions.

 

[leVieux]

True, it IS a state, not a nation. But as such, a state, in it's purist form, trumps the authority of a nation. Definition from Britannica:

"A nation is a group of people with a common language, history, culture, and (usually) geographic territory. A state is an association of people characterized by formal institutions of government, including laws; permanent territorial boundaries; and sovereignty (political independence).

When I was a young it was very common to hear news anchors and collegiate professors referring to other countries as "the State of Egypt" or the "State of Israel", which is technically correct. The U.S. media and educational instutions have now mostly withdrawn the term "state" in the context of referring to sovereign countries because they don't want the U.S. public to realize the sovereignty, authority, and independence that the states were originally intended to possess.

If Texas was allowed to wield the authority that a STATE, by definition, is SUPPOSED to have, the State's decision would supercede the voluntary confederation forming the United States and it would be allowed to peacefully secede at any time.

The civil war was never intended to end slavery. There are documents written by Lincoln himself stating this. He pens in one letter, still available for viewing in the Library of Congress, "If I can restore to the Union the States that have seceded WITHOUT freeing the slaves, I MUCH prefer to do so." It's main objective was to permanently alter the interpretation of the Articles of Confederation to remove the rights of secession from the member states.

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AMEN !

Very well expressed and accurate.

Several years back while recovering from cancer surgery, I had opportunity to read ALL of Lincoln’s wartime speeches. The things he publicly admitted to were surprising. Previously I had just accepted the “history book” author’s cherry-picking of certain of his phrases to make him seem a hero.

Thank you,

leVieux

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[motorcarman]

I am going to guess that the PUBS and meeting places in the 1770's were NOT UNLIKE this forum.

Some event (Boston Massacre?) might trigger a response to the gov't overreach, but then again, we might 'just go quietly into the night'?

 

[Hoji]

Someone is off their boomer meds.

 

[BigRed]

Someone is off their boomer meds.

Meh.
Study your history.

 

[popper]

Well, guess that army private already did, went to N Korea vs Texas Just leave him there I say, his choice. But libs will pay to get him back. Stupid!!

 

[G O B]

Tell the fat boy that he can keep deserter. Fat boy will eat him for dessert!

 

[480 Ruger]

Well, guess that army private already did, went to N Korea vs Texas Just leave him there I say, his choice. But libs will pay to get him back. Stupid!!

Biden will likely trade 5 terrorists for him

 

[Cool 'Horn Luke]

He needs to just claim being a gay, tranny, and card carrying member of antifa, he'd already be back.

 

[O.S.O.K. 1961]

Well, just go right ahead and spit on Old Glory and join the Jane Fonda crowd.
Fly that Confederate loser flag too.

Why are you so anti-secession? I suppose you'd rather just get your communist party card and comply? What do you think we should do instead? You are understandably not for rebellion... so you think we should just accept the brave new world? What? I am truly mystified by your stance here. What is to be gained by insulting people wanting to discuss the best path forward?

 

[O.S.O.K. 1961]

I think it's safe to say that most everyone here wants the system to work. Wants the democrats to abide by the law and not cheat in the elections or weaponize the DOJ, FBI, IRS and ATF. But guess what? They have and they do and they will continue to. The SCOTUS has slowed them down but we can't count on that being a permanent solution for obvious reasons. Our so-called Republican political leaders are meek and ineffective and steadily losing ground to our oppressors.

So that's why other "solutions" to using the system are brought up. Secession is the lesser of two evils = the other being rebellion. Not ideal and nobody I am sure wants to fire on our military. I will say that any soldier that obeys the illegal orders of the current corrupt, criminal, treasonous deep state hacks does not deserve to wear the uniform. This is very near to my heart as my son is a USAF pilot. I pray that he will resign his commission rather than carry out illegal orders - even peripherally.

This is not amusing topic to me. I am gravely concerned for the future of my kids and grandchildren and would like the best path forward for them - the one without being communist subjects with no rights, living in fear on a daily basis of being abused and killed at the whim of some vile communist lacky.

 

[msharley]

I think it's safe to say that most everyone here wants the system to work. Wants the democrats to abide by the law and not cheat in the elections or weaponize the DOJ, FBI, IRS and ATF. But guess what? They have and they do and they will continue to. The SCOTUS has slowed them down but we can't count on that being a permanent solution for obvious reasons. Our so-called Republican political leaders are meek and ineffective and steadily losing ground to our oppressors.

So that's why other "solutions" to using the system are brought up. Secession is the lesser of two evils = the other being rebellion. Not ideal and nobody I am sure wants to fire on our military. I will say that any soldier that obeys the illegal orders of the current corrupt, criminal, treasonous deep state hacks does not deserve to wear the uniform. This is very near to my heart as my son is a USAF pilot. I pray that he will resign his commission rather than carry out illegal orders - even peripherally.

This is not amusing topic to me. I am gravely concerned for the future of my kids and grandchildren and would like the best path forward for them - the one without being communist subjects with no rights, living in fear on a daily basis of being abused and killed at the whim of some vile communist lacky.

Just a point....for pondering....

Look at what the WWII "Heroes" did to the WWI Veterans in the Bonus March...

We live in "interesting times"....

 

[O.S.O.K. 1961]

Just a point....for pondering....

Look at what the WWII "Heroes" did to the WWI Veterans in the Bonus March...

We live in "interesting times"....

Lord I hope it doesn't come down to finding out... but we all know it could happen. Just like there are Law Enforcement that routinely violate the Constitution - our civil rights. That is why the Oath Keepers came to be.