So, you have an AR for home defense, SHTF - what ammo?

[easy rider]

AR? Nope.

Why not a Noisy Cricket?

 

[31STMEUSOC]

In your house? First question do you have kids? Also rounds go thru sheet rock I have fired 230 grain 45acp hollow points that went thru two full walls and stop at a piece of furniture on the other side in a combat shooting house that's 4 layers of 1/2 inch old school sheetrock and 2x4 studs. I always tell people birdshot messes them up real good enough that they live and the Police can pick them up at the hospital the next round is OO buck if they dont get the point.

 

[Gunmetal]

Hornady TAP 62gr

 

[denit]

Reloads, using AA 2520 and 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoints. You're not going to fire anything like as many rds as you think, and if you HIT, youll have lots of guns and ammo to pick up. nearly all of y our 'fighting' better be suppressed, subsonic brainings, at night, or the odds are going to get you.

 

[Mad John]

subsonic .300 Whisper 220 gr solid copper sectioned hollow-points. In one AR. The other in .458 SOCOM just for effect.... Oh! and just for fun, 3inch 12 gauge Flechette rounds (pretty darned Nasty)

 

[Mad John]

In your house? First question do you have kids? Also rounds go thru sheet rock I have fired 230 grain 45acp hollow points that went thru two full walls and stop at a piece of furniture on the other side in a combat shooting house that's 4 layers of 1/2 inch old school sheetrock and 2x4 studs. I always tell people birdshot messes them up real good enough that they live and the Police can pick them up at the hospital the next round is OO buck if they dont get the point.

NO children here! 100+ year old brick house lathe and plaster interior walls, support walls are brick.. Steel doors and frames. ground floor windows are 3 1/2 inch Lexan in steel double hung frames. Stress monitored floors, passive and active heat and motion sensors. It took several years and more than a few thousand bucks. Small price for some peace of mind?

 

[Mad John]

I have chosen SS-109 version of M855 62 grain penetrator rounds for my prepper stores. I've found that this stuff (Privi Partisan in particular) is very accurate in my AR - it has 1:7" twist and 14.5" barrel (with pinned flash hider to make it over 16").

I did see an interesting youtube about M855 vs M193 with fmj bt 55 grain bullet and it basically showed that the older version actually created more disruption in the media than the 62 grain M855 - though the new round did penetrate a little further. It also found that the 55 grain version was more accurate - or made smaller groups.

I've found that my rifle puts 5 rounds into 1-1.25" at 100 yards consistently - with a scope and from a rest.

I decided to settle on one specific type so that I wouldn't have much variation in point of impact changing from one lot or case to another. The SS019 Privi Partisan can be found for a good price too. But I do have Federal as well.

I could have heavier rounds as well - they'd stabilize in my carbine due to it's fast twist and I could just record the difference in drop and record the clicks needed to adjust, but I use KISS as much as possible with my preps.

What's your choice? Or do you have multiple types?

Yep! .300 Whisper 220 gr HP and the other is .458 SOCOM...

 

[contender buff]

What ever I have at the time. You can’t be to picky these days considering the way things are.

 

[Mad John]

I do realize that penetration is a factor in ballistics. Velocity is another thing to consider. Bullet weight and design is critical for terminal ballistics. A high velocity small caliber bullet that has gross over penetration is a bit of a waste. You can fire a phonograph needle that will entirely pass through an adversary and they may not even know they are wounded, even seriously. I prefer to use the largest caliber projectile, travelling at 1000 to 1600 fps that expends ALL of it's energy on impact entering an enemy. It does not have to through a target, just destroy it with sudden and traumatic incapacitation. Even if a person is wearing level two, three or four body armor would be really unhappy meeting a 400 or 500 grain bullet. at sonic velocity. I do not want some idiot to return fire.
It is all fun!

 

[ArmyDub]

someone will add their opinion in 2022

 

[easy rider]

opinion





OOPS! Too soon.

 

[Jigo23]

I like 55gr Hornady VMAX best. Only have about 1500 rounds left, wish I had gotten more while the gettin’ was good!

 

[Pistol Pete]

My ammo is 55 gr FMJ factory. Fed and Hornady .223 and some 5.56. It's all accurate enough for it's intended purpose.

 

[LabRat]

If the SHTF...ANY Ammo will be OK....trust me.

 

[easy rider]

As you can see, when the SHTF, ammo will be worth it's weight in gold.

 

[satx78247]

I'm not on here just to be able to sell some guns. I'd rather not sell any more. I had a sizable collection a few years back but had to sell them to make ends meet - was hoping I was beyond that now but apparently, not quite... I've been haunting gun boards for a long long time. I'm still a mod over on guns.net and was hanging out on the Mississippi Gun Owners board when I lived there. Was also a mod on Parallax Bills but I haven't been over there in quite a while - that's a milsurp board.

And I don't wither at a few hits from people wanting to troll me. Its all part of the game.

O.S.O.K.1961,

At REAL home/farm defense ranges, I seriously doubt if the intruders/predators/criminals will know or care which 5.56 NATO round that they were shot with by a householder. - Standard GI-issue FMJ ammo will adequately do the job.
(It is well-known among my friends that I'm "no particular fan of" the AR sort of rifles/carbines but facts are facts.)

I've often seen, over the last 4 decades, the results of one or more hits to the K5 area of the body from the M16/M4 class of rifles/carbines & all of those hits worked FINE to STOP the 2-footed/4-footed target.

ADDENDA: Should things start "getting really ugly" before we retire to Portugal this year, as seems LIKELY as I write these lines, my plan is to move the family onto Ft Sam Houston temporarily & "until things settle down".
(The Post CDR & the staff will NOT turn away a retired MP/former PM, his lady & their "often hospitalized" 2YO son. - My plan is to get the 3 of us onto the post, check the baby/spouse into the MEDDAC & then offer to "join the party" in protecting the FSH community from "all-evildoers".)

yours, satx
USA, Retired

 

[Axxe55]

As you can see, when the SHTF, ammo will be worth it's weight in gold.

Gold is over-rated IMO. I'd rather trade for quality bourbon!

 

[gll]

Gold is over-rated IMO. I'd rather trade for quality bourbon!

Stock up while prices are low!

 

[easy rider]

Gold is over-rated IMO. I'd rather trade for quality bourbon!

True! The man with all the gold will never be able to hold on to it against the man with all the ammo.

 

[Wolfwood]

This stuff..