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  • Ole Cowboy

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    The Dems are parading that little gal out of NY that is a Socialist, they could have picked someone else because she is dumber than a mud fence but she is young and my bet is they are laying the foundation with her generation.

    Socialism is an easy sell because it's based upon the key words of "Easy, Good, and FREE", whatever you want is gonna be easy, free and good, 3 words that don't travel together very often. Of course there is the age old retort to those that hawk its free aspect...'how are you going to pay for it?' To that they say its easy, Apple is worth a Trillion, let's tax them and take half of that, Zuckerman is worth $120Billion, he doesn't need all that so we take the rich more and we can get $60 Billion from him. To the socialist the answer is simple and easy, just tax more not a problem. Then the little NY Socialists said yesterday that if we have universal healthcare we will save money on funerals because less people will die and they will pay for the medical! Like I said she is stupid, so stupid she could not pour piss out of boot with the directions written on the heel

    Having said that what we know that socialism can be found around the globe and in spite of massive failures it keeps raising its ugly head and now its done it in the US, which I NEVER thought was possible. It's coming and going to land squarely in your laps (note I said YOUR laps). My bet is socialism will begin making its appearance in the next Dem to sit in the Oval office and from there my guess is 2 more Dem elections concurrently and it will be reality. In time I would about 20 years from now.

    My logic here is Silicon Valley which is about as far left as you can get. In my 25 years in the IT world I say little left wing thinking, but those of us there are now mostly gone, I retired when I sold my company in 2001 and have never looked back. Zuckerman woth about $120B is far left and certainly has no issue with Socialism as he is one of the biggest proponents of UBI, Universal Basic Income where you are paid not to work. Zman is not smart enough know we have UBI now and have had it for long time, its called Welfare and we see how that has worked out for us.

    Compare the Top 5 % of yesterday with the Top 5% of today: Yesterday's 5%ers came from the oil fields and manufacturing factories, lumber, land and these hard me knew hard work and high risk. Today its electrons and clean hands, AC heated offices, low risk extremely high rewards.

    In all Socialist modern Socialist govt we find the same thing a union of the extreme wealthy capitalists linked to the top level of the govt. Our nearest example is Mexico, where about 10% of the population control 90% of the wealth of the country. You have poor Mexicans and wealthy and few in between. Socialism does not like middle class and under Obama our middle class was decimated. He knew well what he was doing!

    All this brings up an interesting question: Can the left take over and implement a Socialist form of govt and accomplish it WITHOUT massive gun control. I don't know of any Socialist movement that was accomplished without a lot of people dying in the process.

    That said I and my guns won't be around so what happens then.
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    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    Everything you said is spot on and so very grim...

    socialism keeps rearing it's butt ugly self no matter that it's always been an utter failure.

    socialism the perfect example of stupidity.

    Why do I say that?

    Simple

    Keep doing the same thing and failing, but keep doing it over and over expecting one day a different result will come about = STUPID!
     

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    Ole Cowboy

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    Everything you said is spot on and so very grim...

    socialism keeps rearing it's butt ugly self no matter that it's always been an utter failure.

    socialism the perfect example of stupidity.

    Why do I say that?

    Simple

    Keep doing the same thing and failing, but keep doing it over and over expecting one day a different result will come about = STUPID!
    Socialism has strong appeal, its hard to say no to something that is free, folks naturally want to believe it. We this in advertisements all the time, the BOGO Free. There is not such thing as a free lunch! I remember when my dad told me that I was just a little kid and I asked what did that mean, he said just remember it, you will understand later in life. He was right.

    Why will socialism win, because todays kids are overweight, overweight because they are lazy, lazy don't won't to work, yea they are gonna buy into socialism lock, stock and barrel...
     

    Moonpie

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    Many young people fall for lie that is socialism.
    Let us be honest. Few people are born into wealth.
    The majority of us aren’t.
    Jealously is at the heart of it.
    The many without want what the few have.
    Socialism promises to even the score.
    Its very enticing to someone born into dire poverty.
    Especially Third World poverty.
    The problem is socialists are greedy corrupt murdering assholes. They’re worse than the supposedly evil rich they rail so much against. Just like the evil rich once THEY get on the gravy train they aren’t getting off without a bullet between the eyes.
    Every Socialist system is a system of theft and graft. Nothing really gets built anew.
    When I was young and without I felt the same. It didn’t seem fair that some folks had big houses and property.
    I was envious but I understood I had to earn things myself.
    As I made my way through life I have acquired some wealth. Certainly not much but it is mine. Acquired by my labor and toil. And I resent the shit out of some punk ass yelping Its not fair and I should give him something just because I have it and he doesn’t.
    Get a job and earn it you farking crybaby. Thats what I did.
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    Many young people fall for lie that is socialism.
    Let us be honest. Few people are born into wealth.
    The majority of us aren’t.
    Jealously is at the heart of it.
    The many without want what the few have.
    Socialism promises to even the score.
    Its very enticing to someone born into dire poverty.
    Especially Third World poverty.
    The problem is socialists are greedy corrupt murdering assholes. They’re worse than the supposedly evil rich they rail so much against. Just like the evil rich once THEY get on the gravy train they aren’t getting off without a bullet between the eyes.
    Every Socialist system is a system of theft and graft. Nothing really gets built anew.
    When I was young and without I felt the same. It didn’t seem fair that some folks had big houses and property.
    I was envious but I understood I had to earn things myself.
    As I made my way through life I have acquired some wealth. Certainly not much but it is mine. Acquired by my labor and toil. And I resent the shit out of some punk ass yelping Its not fair and I should give him something just because I have it and he doesn’t.
    Get a job and earn it you farking crybaby. Thats what I did.
    That is a ten ring...I an't got much, but what I got, I got from my sweat, not somebody handing it to me.
     

    motorcarman

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    The Government can't make everyone rich, but it can easily make everyone poor.

    Socialism promises equality. I guess if everyone is poor, then everyone is equal.

    A gov't can't make everyone happy, but it can ensure that everyone is MISERABLE.

    Even in communism, there are 'rich' people. They might not OWN the wealth, but the politburo officials get to spend and distribute the money. (mostly on themselves and loyalists)

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    easy rider

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    If you don't think Obama was a socialist, you didn't pay attention. Just look at what he did, especially in his second term and if you dig you'll find socialism written all over it. Obama just didn't call himself a socialist. This isn't new with the left, it's the direction they have been headed all along.
     

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    I think the biggest danger is that what Ocasio et al. are selling isn’t really socialism, but a giant welfare state. That’s why the media focuses on Denmark, Sweden, etc as “socialist”. They are welfare states, not quite socialist states, where still-profitable private companies are taxed just enough to pay for all the free stuff, but not so much as to put them out of business. It’s like the Maasai drinking the cow’s blood, but not killing it.

    To a lot of people in this country, that sounds pretty good. But at some point, either by the fortunes of business or plain mismanagement, the corporate profits aren’t enough to cover the expenses of the welfare state. So, the state has to step in and start directing the actions of the company. Then the welfare state slides into socialism. But it takes a while for that to happen, during which time all the people get used to the free stuff, and refuse to give it up. Socialism is, then, fully in place.

    And let’s stop using the term “socialists”. These people are Marxists. Progressive, communist, socialist, leftist, they are all Marxists. To Marxists, economics isn’t about wealth, it’s about power. They’ve been working on turning America since the late 19th century. That’s why they’ve been centralizing power in the Federal government, and why the identity politics practiced by Democrats is all about power. This is going to be a decades-long cultural and political war. Get your helmets on.
     

    EZ-E

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    If parents would just teach their kids a few little life phrases & one from the Rolling Stones the world would be a better place.

    Life phrases my dad taught me...

    1) Nothing In Life is Free
    2) If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is
    3) You can't always get what you want (Rolling Stones)
     

    General Zod

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    If you're not a liberal when you are 20, you have no heart, etc.

    I wasn't a liberal when I was 20...I was learning to think critically about what I saw and heard, and realized the trap of socialism. My 13 year old son has a pretty good grasp of that today, and his 15 year old brother is coming along well, too.
     

    dapakattack

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    The United States has been Socialist-Lite since Woodrow Wilson. Ramped up by FDR, LBJ and Obama (what all Do they have in common?)
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    If you're not a liberal when you are 20, you have no heart, etc.
    At 20: I had no idea what a liberal was, I grew with dad and mom that came from rural roots, mom lived thru the depression, dad lived thru the depression, Dustbowl, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

    He told me things like:
    There is no free lunch in this world.

    We were out in the shop and he looked at me, held up his hands and said, son, learn to be able to make a living with your hands and don't be afraid to work hard, but get all the education you can so you can make a living with your head.

    Don't be beholden to others.

    At age 20 on was on the DMZ of Vietnam...and the first time I met or saw a liberal was when when I stepped off that plane at SEATAC airport.
     
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