I've heard that it's about as good as Federal 230 grain HydraShok (and cheaper). Plus, without the post, there will be harder to clog with cloth. I feel the 230 grain HiShok is a good, all-around 45 ACP hollowpoint. I would also look at the Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics 230 grain JHP (uses a Zero hollowpoint made in Alabama). I've heard great things about general good expansion and reliable expansion, even at lower velocities (and it's cheap too in 50 round boxes).