Staccato handguns

[Darkpriest667]

Does anyone have any experience with their pistols and/or their company?

Curious of everyone's thoughts that's had experience. They seem to be a 1911 custom group that specializes in high end 1911 framed pistols in 9mm (and 45) Anyone have one? Anyone dealt with them and can give me insights into them as a manufacturer and as a company?

https://staccato2011.com/

 

[Darkpriest667]

ok this is the OLD STI manufacturer rebranded. Any insight would be helpful thanks

 

[toddnjoyce]

I’ve shot an STI, but not staccato. People love them or hate them.

The STI that I shot was lacking the fit/finish I would expect from a boutique shop. Loose slide to frame fit, the slide stop was unreliable, and the fat 1911 grip left a lot to he desired. Realize I had owned my WC X9 for close to two years by the time I shot the STI.

For the money, either go Dan Wesson or WC/Nighthawk.

 

[toddnjoyce]

ETA: they made their brand with race guns, IIRC. That lineage shows; my X9 is definitely a fighting gun.

 

[andre3k]

Staccato is formerly STI. They specialize in 2011's, not 1911's. The company was sold and is under new ownership mainly by ex military guys and they're mainly marketing to the LE and concealed carry market now. Staccato has had some growing pains but overall the QC and customer service is improved over the old STI. Staccato is the reason that the 2011 is a viable duty weapon now.

Springfield Armory is coming out with a 2011 clone that will be half the cost of a Staccato without the long lead times. They're teaming up with Tu Lam to provide input on the design and to be the brand ambassador, so we'll see how that works out.

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[etmo]

Agree with the above. I've shot many STIs, and two Staccatos (XL and C2). STI used to be the "entry level" or "gateway drug" to the higher-end 2011 race guns. STI had their ups and downs.

As a smaller company trying to get a lock on things while growing, Staccato will have changes and probably some ups and downs too, but right now (June 2022) their products seem to be in a good place. I wouldn't hesitate to carry or compete with one of their pistols if I decided that was for me.

I don't know where you are, but a few ranges in TX have Staccatos you can rent. Maybe check and see if there's one around you. Or show up to a USPSA match, there will be plenty of STIs and Staccatos, maybe even an IDPA match.

 

[Texasjack]

STI made great pistols and were highly recommended as a very cost effective way to get a high-end 1911. They were able to do that because they had really good CNC machining. They never seemed to be particularly well financed, and their relations with local firearms dealers was worse than terrible. Staccato took STI's 2011 line and has produced race gun pistols with a pretty good reputation. I have a couple of STI pistols - and I love them - but I have no interest in anything Staccato.

 

[Sam Colt]

STI was the boutique Para Ordnance. 2011 with flair.

That said, their 1911s were fine guns. The Spartan entry level was machined in the Phillipines and hand finished in Georgetown. The Trojan was the next step up and a US made no frills hand finished gun for under a grand. I did business with Dawson Precision in Florence and was impressed with the quality and function of the STI 1911s I got from them. I considered them to actually be what Kimber wished to be.

I've since moved on to Les, Ed, and Bill's products and have never looked back.

 

[cajunautoxer]

I've been out of the 2011 game for a couple of years. Not sure if Brazos Custom gun's still do this. They would take a STI 2011 and do a reliability check before selling the 2011. IIRC it's several hundred dollars over retail. Also look into the RIA 2011 worked over by the Hayes Custom Guns. OP they are close to you also. I sent my RIA to them and had the reliablity package done. It was still less than a STI back. But that was 6 yrs ago

 

[Lumberjack98]

Springfield Armory is coming out with a 2011 clone that will be half the cost of a Staccato without the long lead times. They're teaming up with Tu Lam to provide input on the design and to be the brand ambassador, so we'll see how that works out.

I can't find anything on this. Do you have any other information?

 

[andre3k]

I can't find anything on this. Do you have any other information?

No, it isn't public yet but it should be fairly soon. Lam has alluded to the deal on his Instagram page.

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[cajunautoxer]

I would like to see the cost of a SA 2011. I doubt it will be much less than a STI/Stucco

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[RankAmateur]

Does anyone have any experience with their pistols and/or their company?

Curious of everyone's thoughts that's had experience. They seem to be a 1911 custom group that specializes in high end 1911 framed pistols in 9mm (and 45) Anyone have one? Anyone dealt with them and can give me insights into them as a manufacturer and as a company?

https://staccato2011.com/

OK, I'll bite. I really like my Staccato pistols. I have the P model (what they consider their duty pistol), and the XC (compensated competition pistol). Both are in 9mm. Both have been completely reliable, very accurate, and a lot of fun. They have cycled every ammo brand I've fed them, including marshmallow handholds and +p JHPs. Trigger on the P breaks at just over 4 lbs, while the XC is 2.1 lbs. Build quality and fitment are very good. I don't mind the "Fat" grips necessitated by the double stack design, and my wife actually prefers the Staccato grips to everything else she has used.

Pricey, but I have no regrets at all. Like all firearms, your mileage may vary. If you get the opportunity, put one in your hand and try it out.

 

[Tnhawk]

I don't see that I'll have much interest in Staccato. Anything I need is available from SA, DW, WC, Colt and a few other established brands.

 

[seeker_two]

I would like to see the cost of a SA 2011. I doubt it will be much less than a STI/Stucco

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My bet is that it will be some form of rebadged BUL 2011 from Israel.....

 

[etmo]

My bet is that it will be some form of rebadged BUL 2011 from Israel.....

Well, the XDs are made in Croatia so maybe Israel is next on the manufacturing list?

 

[TX oddball]

Does anyone have any experience with their pistols and/or their company?

Curious of everyone's thoughts that's had experience. They seem to be a 1911 custom group that specializes in high end 1911 framed pistols in 9mm (and 45) Anyone have one? Anyone dealt with them and can give me insights into them as a manufacturer and as a company?

https://staccato2011.com/

I have a Staccato P (steel frame). Here it is next to my Wilson Combat EDC X9L. Both are excellent handguns, my absolute favorite 9mms. The Staccato is 100% reliable, accurate as f***, absorbs recoil nicely, a real pleasure to shoot.



Staccatos are not 1911s per se, they are labeled "2011s", mainly because the grip module is an entirely different component than the frame. But yes, it does sport the 1911 controls and trigger.

Just to clarify- Staccato is NOT STI. The folks who own and run Staccato are not the original owners of STI. Sandy Strayer and Virgil Tripp started STI in the early 90s, with Strayer leaving STI a few years later to start SVI firearms, now known as Infinity. Dave and Shirley Skinner bought STI from Tripp, who went on to to team with Chip McCormmick to make mags and parts in the 1911 world. The Skinners then sold the company to the STI employees in 2005, and they hired different CEOs while making competition guns, finally being acquired by Westwind Investors in late 2017 and placing current Staccato CEO Nate Horvath in as CEO, and the brains behind the revamp, to completely scrap the previous STI models and create from scratch new 2011s for the LE and duty market in 2018. After coming up with the prototype P model, and thoroughly tested with LE departments in 2018-19, they finalized their company goals and changed their name to Staccato in 2020.

As far as the old reputation of shitty performing magazines, the STI one's were made by STI themselves, and they did a poor job on design and manufacturing, the reason competitors had to tune them in between matches. One of the main reasons Delta disqualified the STI gun (NOT Staccato) from duty consideration was the mags. Later Horvath completely scrapped the STI mags and had an outside company redesign and manufacture the Staccato ones.

Many Texas Rangers carry the Staccato as their duty gun. The new mags are excellent, my P has 17 and 20 round ones. Imagine a rock solid 1911 shooting 20 rounds of 9mm. And they are made in TEXAS. I have called the company once, they were great- helpful and informative. I actually bought my handgun from Dawson Precision, the guys who designed and make their rear sights, they too are in Texas. Very prompt shipping, a pleasure to deal with.

IMO, Staccatos are worth the price.

 

[tekiwap]

I've shot Staccatos plenty. There is no doubt that it's one of the best shooting guns I've shot. I own two EDC X9s and it's a hard choice...I would've got a Staccato if given a do over. Then I'd have one of each.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Thanks everyone. I will reveal why I asked in a few months. Appreciate it!

 

[Lumberjack98]

Thanks everyone. I will reveal why I asked in a few months. Appreciate it!

Now that’s just shitty!

Looking forward to the reveal.