Staggering different ammo

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  1. GI-John

    GI-John Hurry up and wait!! TGT Supporter

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    So after reading BigCountry's thread on How to keep it ready at http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/shotguns/7668-how-keep-ready.html

    I revived an old topic I once discussed in a gun store. There are a lot of scenarios in public. The scenario for this fellow was that someone boxed in his car with him and his brother in it at a stop sign. Only one guy got out and came to hold them up on the drivers side. He sat there with a 40s&w loaded with hollow points. He shot through the door with fragments wounding the would be robber.

    My question is this. Has anyone ever tried staggering JHP, FMJ, JHP, FMJ, and so forth? This guy never planned on shooting through his Ford Expedition car door. I assume the magazine feed is the greatest concern. Any one care to elaborate. Not the most experienced but I do not think that the robber is always going to be completely exposed and even if he is you will not yourself either. I need to see some ballistic tests for trajectory after hard surface penetration, particularly JHP & BJHP.
     


  2. Texas42

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    One of my friends has the first round as a fmj as a "warning shot," . . . (not intending to miss, just to make a small hole). I don't agree with the idea, but he does it. I kind of wish I had some car doors to test my ammo on.

    I wonder how those bonded bullets work in those kinds of situations?
     
  3. Big country

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    WoW! I never said that. LOL!
    I think it's best just to load with hollow points and leave it that way. The HP's will go threw doors and windows at close range and are less apt to go careening threw the target (which in this case is a BG) and into someone or something else that could be hurt or damaged by the secondary bullet strike.
     
  4. Big country

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    I don't know about bonded bullets, but fmj's, hydra shoks and wwb hp's will go threw car doors and go threw 1/4'' ply wood after that.
     
  5. GI-John

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    Said what? The topic of how you keep yours ready reminded me of the guy at the gun store and his story. :lolz:
     
  6. GI-John

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    Good to know, now all I need to know is how much does it affect shot placement
     
  7. Texas42

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    You going to get some kind of scatter with any shot you use, but the idea is that the bad guy is directly on the other side, so it won't matter a whole lot.
     
  8. dee

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    My dad gave my grandmother a S&W revolver to keep in her house for protection and it was staggered with hot ratshot loads and HP's. He told her if someone started to come down the hall in her house just to point and pull the trigger.
     
  9. Big country

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    :rofl::rofl:
     
  10. wrtanker

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    I once thought about that myself - having a FMJ to punch a hole first followed by hollow points. However, if you're counting on the FMJ to punch the first hole then you have to put the HP through the same hole, otherwise the first hole made by the FMJ doesn't matter. In the case of the car door he likely wasn't using the sights so it wouldn't have mattered what the first round was the second round would have made its own hole.
     

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