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  • texas_teacher

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    I saw a relaoding technique used in a Youtube clip at a tactical shotgun match and I couldn't find it again or I would've attached the link but the competitors had belt rigs that held four shells in a stack so that four shells could be loaded from below in a manner of seconds... anybody remember what this method is called?
     

    Texas1911

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    Dear god I can only imagine a perps chest after a full mag of buck. Talk about a beating. Even if it doesn't strike any organs (which I highly doubt that after a full mag you've missed them all) the chest would be so battered that it would take years of surgery.

    I would be willing to bet that center mass hits with a full mag (5+1) of heavy buckshot would make it virtually impossible that the person would still be in the fight unless it was at a far range. Within 25 yards, you'd have to be running on the rock.
     

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    They would have be on a lot of the best dope money can buy. Cause after 6 rounds of 00 to the center mass at 10' there wouldn't any mass in the the center left to shoot!
     

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    It was a joke...if you unload your full compliment of 00 buck and they are still coming after you...your name is John Connor and your battling the terminator
     

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    the Marine video

    So the Marine in the video, was he not pushing his forearm all the way out? a couple of times there his action was opening on fire without him touching it
     

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    Maybe i'm a idiot but why not birdshot? Just as effective at close range as 00' but doesn't go through interior walls.
     

    SIG_Fiend

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    Maybe i'm a idiot but why not birdshot? Just as effective at close range as 00' but doesn't go through interior walls.

    Would you use birdshot on a deer? ;) I sure as heck wouldn't. Buckshot or slugs for me when it comes to defense against a human size attacker.
     

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    Ever look at the ballistic gel for birdshot? I'm usually not one to squack about ballistics, but you are talking like 5 or 6 inches. Not close to the 12" most people want. Sure Birdshot will make a messy wound, but it won't penetrate worth a darn. It is NOT as effective at close range as 00' buck.

    There is a reason it won't penetrate many walls.
     

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    Ever look at the ballistic gel for birdshot? I'm usually not one to squack about ballistics, but you are talking like 5 or 6 inches. Not close to the 12" most people want. Sure Birdshot will make a messy wound, but it won't penetrate worth a darn. It is NOT as effective at close range as 00' buck.

    There is a reason it won't penetrate many walls.

    00 is effective in a close quarters situation but so would birdshot... those 5 inches would be plenty to leave a nice wound cavity to slow someone down and probably put a couple of nice holes in their air bags... making every movement torture... two rounds of birdshot just to make sure will more often than not do the job dee
     

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    Bird shot tends to have a cratering effect on big game (in this case BG'S ) I have read Capstick and he says that you can chop a lioness's head off with 20 ga bird shot and that he did it. But the muzzle was a few inches from her head. (I could be wrong about the Capstic storie that is why I didn't claim it as fact) He also reports a kid with a shot gun or light rifle bouncing rounds off of a lions head and finally be forced to kill it with a spear. So shoot birds with bird shot and Bad burglar guys with 00 buck or slugs. The bird shot will go threw sheet rock just a good as 00 buck will. I have told people to use bird shot before after the article on the box-o-truth I renounced my faith and went to the dark side of shot guns.
     

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    [URL="http://Theboxotruth.com"][url]http://Theboxotruth.com[/URL][/URL]
    Bird shot tends to have a cratering effect on big game (in this case BG'S ) I have read Capstick and he says that you can chop a lioness's head off with 20 ga bird shot and that he did it. But the muzzle was a few inches from her head. (I could be wrong about the Capstic storie that is why I didn't claim it as fact) He also reports a kid with a shot gun or light rifle bouncing rounds off of a lions head and finally be forced to kill it with a spear. So shoot birds with bird shot and Bad burglar guys with 00 buck or slugs. The bird shot will go threw sheet rock just a good as 00 buck will. I have told people to use bird shot before after the article on the box-o-truth I renounced my faith and went to the dark side of shot guns.

    Maybe my Maverick will be loaded with interchanged 00 and slugs... that outta get the job done...
     

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    Ever look at the ballistic gel for birdshot? I'm usually not one to squack about ballistics, but you are talking like 5 or 6 inches. Not close to the 12" most people want. Sure Birdshot will make a messy wound, but it won't penetrate worth a darn. It is NOT as effective at close range as 00' buck.

    There is a reason it won't penetrate many walls.

    I'm average size 6' 195 and at my widest point is about 7 inches so it seems to me 12" would be overpenetration. I know bird shot is efective from about 15 feet I scattered peices of a jackrabbit all over a barbedwire fence so I'm certain it would work on an intruder.
     
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