Tactical Shotgun Reloading

[Howie]

Hi All,

I have a friend who was telling me about a tactical shotgun reload technique where the load is switched from shot to slug via the ejector and vice versa.

I have never seen this, and I assume it is done with a pump.

Can anyone describe this procedure? It sounds neat.

 

[DirtyD]

he is refering to a shell swap,not a load, basically you are going to rack your slide to the rear, rotate your ejection port to the ground and dump the two shells... you are then going to use your off hand to place a slug in through the ejection port running the slide forward.....

 

[Jeff-Tex]

Your talking about loading directly into the receiver rather than from the mag tube. It can only be done with a pump. You can chamber each load individually and choose what load to shoot each time. However, you can only do this with an empty mag tube. I load my first round this way.

 

[DirtyD]

you do not need an empty tube, see my post above, this is very easily done with practice, the method differs only slightly for an auto loader....

 

[Howie]

Thank You DirtyD, That is indeed to what I was referring.

You mention dropping "two" shells in your initial post. I assume this is the empty shell casing, but what is the second?

Off of the top of my head, my Mossberg 500 action ejects the chambered shell when the slide is pulled back, and releases the next shell from the mag tube when the slide starts to move forward again.

When is the substitute shell placed in?

 

[DirtyD]

The first is the empty shell casing, which may have already been ejected, depending on the force you used to cycle the pump to the rear, the second will be laying on the carrier, the action of sliding the pump forward loads the next shell in the chamber. The slug is placed in through the ejection port after dumping the two, prior to cycling the pump forward....

 

[texas_teacher]

Does anyone know of any demo vids of individuals doing this? How fast are you DirtyD with this method? What kinds of rounds do you look to load? Different sizes of buckshot and a slug or two or just 00 and slugs?

 

[Jeff-Tex]

YouTube - Speed Loading Remington 870 Express Magnum

 

[texas_teacher]

YouTube - Speed Loading Remington 870 Express Magnum

thank you.... it seems like the pump hand (non trigger hand) seems to be the speediest method for throwing them into the port... is this everyone else's experience with speed loading?

 

[Jeff-Tex]

That's not me, just one of many examples on the tube. I do it different than that guy. I have a 4 rnd side saddle, place 1 up and 3 down. Holding the gun with my right hand, I use my left hand and take the first round and go over the top and chamber. Then hold the gun by the pump with my left hand and load the other 3 in the tube with my right.

There is a video of a marine blindly slapping them in. He's pretty fast!

YouTube - Shotgun Tricks....

 

[Furyataurus]

Hi All,

I have a friend who was telling me about a tactical shotgun reload technique where the load is switched from shot to slug via the ejector and vice versa.

I have never seen this, and I assume it is done with a pump.

Can anyone describe this procedure? It sounds neat.

Its called a SWAP. Nothing "tactical" about it. It can be done with either pump or semi-auto.

On a pump: Slide the fore-end back, this will eject a shell if there is one in the chamber, either catch it or just let it eject. Now there will be a shell on the carrier, just dump that one out and put it in your pocket or keep it in your hand. Now just load whatever you want and slide the slide foreward.

Aren't "tactical" reloads only done with something with a detachable magazine???? There is only SPEED reloads with a shotgun.

Check this out:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU5dsnBsxXs]YouTube - Army Pro Tips: SSG Johnson, PFC Horner Shotgun Reloading[/URL]

 

[40Arpent]

Aren't "tactical" reloads only done with something with a detachable magazine???? There is only SPEED reloads with a shotgun.

It depends. If I am hunting, it is a speed reload. If I am in my Rambo jammies, it's tactical.

 

[Twincannons]

If your in the DFW area the Dallas Pistol Club has a Tactical/Defensive shotgun match the second sunday of the month. It's always challenging and fun, you'll learn alot about your gun and yourself. Those guys out there are friendly and willing to help just be sure to follow the range rules and your good to go.

[URL="http://www.dallaspistolclub.com"][url]www.dallaspistolclub.com[/URL][/URL]

JD

 

[Starker]

Is there a practical use for this technique over using the magazine? I don't mean to sound impertinent. I am genuinely curious.

 

[GM.Chief]

I agree with starker on this one...it's neat and all, but it seems faster to just have the mag full....the only advantage I can see to practicing is if your mag empties and you need to get 'em in fast to defend yourself. I guess in my situation it would be helpful in the fact that I can't keep a round chambered for a home defense situation because I have small children in the house...I keep the action open so all I have to do is pop in a shell and I'm ready to go. At the same time I think while I'm "clearing" rooms, I should have time (more than likely) to fill the mag on the 870. Alright, so as I'm writing this post, I'm seeing more and more advantages to this...my mind is rambling internally...I need to practice this in case I don't have time... Still it seems more helpful for those of us with kids in the house than those without. If you don't have to worry about someone "playing" with it, you can keep it fully loaded. I will say htis though...in a HD situation, if it takes more than a full mag in your shotty, you're doing something wrong.LMAO...Sorry, I think I'm just rambling now...

 

[texas_teacher]

I agree with starker on this one...it's neat and all, but it seems faster to just have the mag full....the only advantage I can see to practicing is if your mag empties and you need to get 'em in fast to defend yourself. I guess in my situation it would be helpful in the fact that I can't keep a round chambered for a home defense situation because I have small children in the house...I keep the action open so all I have to do is pop in a shell and I'm ready to go. At the same time I think while I'm "clearing" rooms, I should have time (more than likely) to fill the mag on the 870. Alright, so as I'm writing this post, I'm seeing more and more advantages to this...my mind is rambling internally...I need to practice this in case I don't have time... Still it seems more helpful for those of us with kids in the house than those without. If you don't have to worry about someone "playing" with it, you can keep it fully loaded. I will say htis though...in a HD situation, if it takes more than a full mag in your shotty, you're doing something wrong.LMAO...Sorry, I think I'm just rambling now...

Dear god I can only imagine a perps chest after a full mag of buck. Talk about a beating. Even if it doesn't strike any organs (which I highly doubt that after a full mag you've missed them all) the chest would be so battered that it would take years of surgery.

 

[texas_teacher]

If your in the DFW area the Dallas Pistol Club has a Tactical/Defensive shotgun match the second sunday of the month. It's always challenging and fun, you'll learn alot about your gun and yourself. Those guys out there are friendly and willing to help just be sure to follow the range rules and your good to go.

[URL="http://www.dallaspistolclub.com"][url]www.dallaspistolclub.com[/URL][/URL]

JD

That sounds awesome. What kinds of shooting categories are they competing in?

 

[Twincannons]

Dallas Pistol Club places the shotgun in semi-auto or pump and less then 5 and 5 or more in the shotgun ( or it is 5 or less and more then 5). They shoot steel plates with no-shoots mixed in, one stage will be a speed plate rack and one stage will have cardboard targets for slug use usually 4 or five slugs.

JD

 

[cuate]

Speed loading

This is similiar to Cowboy Action shotgun shooting with a Model 1897 Winchester pump. They do this to make the shooting fair for competing double barrel shooters, instead of loading more than two in the magazine tube, they feed the following two by hand through the ejection port. Some are very fast at it.

 

[Starker]

This is similiar to Cowboy Action shotgun shooting with a Model 1897 Winchester pump. They do this to make the shooting fair for competing double barrel shooters, instead of loading more than two in the magazine tube, they feed the following two by hand through the ejection port. Some are very fast at it.

That makes sense.