Terminal Wounding Ballistics 101 *NSFW*

308nato

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I know its not for everyone but I posted this for the information on
the type of ammo that was used and the sumations on what worked
and what didn't work so well.
Sorry if I grossed anyone out.
Mods if you think its to much for folks go ahead and delete.
 

SIG_Fiend

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Naw, it's no biggie. I just threw NSFW in the title to make sure no one "accidentally" clicks something they don't really want to see. I think any serious student of self defense does need to see stuff like this and research it. It may be nasty but, it's better to learn now as opposed to the hard way. Although it's kind of annoying seeing crazy examples like this as just when I'm starting to feel perfectly sufficient with a caliber like 9mm or something, an example like this comes along and gives me that feeling I need .500sw or bigger. ;) lol

Man, this guy put up a pretty serious fight. They should have busted out a full auto Spas 15 with 20rd drum mags and 3.5" magnum slugs or something lol. ;) The human body is damn resilient, that's for sure. That also goes to show you that when you put your mind to something, like say surviving, that alone can sometimes be the determining factor on whether you survive or not. I guess the moral of the story is don't give up, you can do more than you think you can and can deal with more than you think you can. Pretty amazing stuff. And to think there are plenty of people that still believe this universe is just one big accident (nothing against any atheists here). ;)
 

cowboy45

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Shot placement is critical. Learn, and practice, not to spray and pray.Dont be too concerned with the fact that you only have 7 rounds or 15. IMHO, if you think high cap is the way to go against the bad guy, (1-2) you, plan on missing alot. Be certain and be accurate and be fast.
 

Texas1911

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Shot placement is critical. Learn, and practice, not to spray and pray.Dont be too concerned with the fact that you only have 7 rounds or 15. IMHO, if you think high cap is the way to go against the bad guy, (1-2) you, plan on missing alot. Be certain and be accurate and be fast.
Shot placement was good in this shootout. He was hit in the throat, chest, and abdomen several times by .223 and .40 caliber rounds. The rounds themselves, especially the pistol rounds did not work as advertised.

The pistol caliber rounds had trouble penetrating his heavy clothing, and the rifle caliber rounds simply passed through. He seemed to be hiding behind cover which prevented a solid shot. If anything this proves the limited abilities of the various firearms used in certain situations.

I think personally that the LE community should be using a larger caliber rifle where they can utilize expanding munitions. Something like a .450 Bushmaster or .50 Beowulf could easily be retrofitted to existing hardware, and the round would probably be more effective on soft targets, whilst retaining it's hard target potential. It's not like LEOs are engaging targets 300 - 400 yards away in an urban environment.
 
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