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  • aTm papi

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    My father-in-law was attacked by a shoplifter at his work, so he decided to do an online class from another state. I told him that you still needed a field test done, and he told me Virginia DPS doesn't require it. What do you guys think about no field test requirement?

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    txinvestigator

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    Not sure what a field test is. But if he obtains a valid CHL from any state with which we have reciprocity then he can carry here.

    My concern is that he will not know Texas laws. Can he shoot a shoplifter? At what point would an "attack" justify deadly force as a response? On that note, what is Deadly force? See where I am going with this?
     

    matefrio

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    How much is the online course? Seems to me he could do it for nothing more than the state fees and fingerprint fees by going to the state website and following the clear and concise information there.
     

    aTm papi

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    Maybe I'm saying it wrong, but it's where they have you shoot at a target from 3, 7, and 15 yards away.

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    matefrio

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    Here is what they require:Virginia State Police - Nonresident Concealed Handgun Permits

    Documentation of Competence with a Handgun
    The applicant shall demonstrate competence with a handgun by one of the following:

    • Completing a hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state.
    • Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course.
    • Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services or a similar agency of another state.
    • Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement.
    • Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition approved by the Department of State Police or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services.
    • Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in this Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause.
    • Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor.
    • Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.
    • Completing any other firearms training that the Virginia Department of State Police deems adequate.
    A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any such course or class, an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant, or a copy of any document which shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall satisfy the requirement for demonstration of competence with a handgun.
     

    matefrio

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    How do I feel about it?

    I really don't care if there is or isn't a requirement to demonstrate proficiency as they are all arbitrary legislative BS puked out of a bureaucracy where it seems citizens need to jump through hoops to conceal carry handguns in certain states in specific locations under specific circumstances.

    Some other states don't require anything but being a good citizen to open or conceal carry and I don't see a change in how good honest people act there from here so why even bother if you don't need to go show how many times you can hit the paper from bureaucratically defined distances?

    As far as the law goes if he studies up on where and where he can not go under the law and remembers it then he's far ahead of everyone who can't remember or has outdated and incorrect information.
     
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    Acera

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    All what hoops? Matefrios list is from where ONE item is chosen.

    My bad, thought it was one of the states that you had to take their class (online or otherwise), had it confused with some other one that a local gun store was offering here..............
     
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