I hear you DirtyD, but at the same time, these gals, errr, guys from Austin need as much help as they can get. Haven't you seen ol' Texas1911's gun's? They're all equipped with Holo-red dot, laser/light, CT grip, laser-max, with value sized magwell to shoot at 20 feet and closer. He even equipped his LARP'ing Wizard stick with a laser/light. We don"t need no stinkin' optics to end up VICTORIOUS DirtyD!!!