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    While scanning through various crap...i mean news, I came across an article [url]http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/04/can-obama-shut-down-the-internet/[/URL] about the new Cyber Security Act they want to pass. How long do you think until they revoke our 1A rights so we won't be able to talk about our 2A rights, let alone the others, by ignoring our 4A rights? It's only a matter of time until they try and make us like every other country, unable to voice our opinions, defend ourselves, etc. without issuing a proper warrant. It'll start with the internet (read sec.14 (a) and (b)(1).), but if they get their foot in the door there it's only going to get worse. How can anyone be ok with this? I gues I just don't get it...:confused:
     

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    I am not sitting around anymore. If this country goes to sh#t, it won't be because I didn't vote, email, phone, visit, post on forums, attend things like Tea Parties, and live as an example.


    I'm mad as hell and I want my country back for my kids and yours!
     

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    I'm mad as hell and I want my country back for my kids and yours!

    Same here. America is still the greatest country, but it is going down the drain quickly and will soon be just like every other. Now is the time to be vigilant about contacting our senators and representatives and doing our part to stop this cycle.
     

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    I am not sitting around anymore. If this country goes to sh#t, it won't be because I didn't vote, email, phone, visit, post on forums, attend things like Tea Parties, and live as an example.


    I'm mad as hell and I want my country back for my kids and yours!

    Great post. Me too. I'm tired of all of the people I know that have their heads in the sand and won't inconvienience themselves or even talk about it.
     

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    I'm done taking liberal shit. I've worked hard, raised a family, paid my taxes, served my country, and live a law abiding life. I'll be damned if I'm going to let these people take liberty and freedom from my family.

    Take a few minutes every day to review current events. Before you know it, you'll be up to speed.
     

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    Ok, I have no clue how to use a gun. And, I couldn't begin to tell you what kind of gun is good to hunt with. But, I only became a memeber to comment on this. This Hot Air article was interesting. However, I have to disagree with the person who wrote it. When, she said that she would rather trust George Bush with this then Obama.

    I totally disagree. We shouldn't give any president powers such as these. Our country was founded on basic freedoms. And, privacy being a biggie. I am almost certain that people will be for this. Why? Because, the President is saying we have to protect our Countries computer system, and the sensitive data that is in them. Although, I am very much for this. I am against the plan that he wants to execute to get this done.

    I remember hearing about this when George Bush was president. I was with my grandmother, and I immediatly had a problem with it. I told my grandmother my concerns. And, she thought I was being ridiculous. She claimed that George Bush would NEVER use wiretaping to invade anyones privacy just to do it. Then, she looked at me, and said "Well, Trent. If you have nothing to hide. Then, you will be ok"

    This shocked me, and what she said speaks volumes with the morons who will want to back this bill. I would also like to point out, that I am not a Republican, or a Democrat. I simply vote for who I think will do a better job in this country. Besides that, I believe both parties have an agenda.

    And, to let you all know, I am for the right to bear arms. My roomates think that 9/11 was staged. Although, I do not believe this, I do believe it gave those overpowering assholes in Washington exactly what it needed. A reason to watch us, and every move we make.

    You can't as a government in a country like this say "We will watch ever move you make." and have it stick. But, if you say something like "We must monitor calls, bust in your home without probable cause, and read your mail. In the name of National Security, and to protect you, and your loved ones." Then, you will have people that will scream for that protection. And, not think a thing about our freedoms.

    This bill spits in the faces of our wonderful forefathers who founded this country. And, The President should be asamed of it. Again, I am for a solution to better protecting our national computers from cyber terrorists, and hackers. But, not like this. We might as well call our government a Totalitarism society if this goes through.

    I know, people say write your congressmen about this. But, is that the only solution? I am 33 years old, and to be quite honest. This bill terrifies me. Lets say for the moment that the President uses this bill as it is intended to be used for. And, to make wise choices as to whose internet activity poses a threat, and take action on it.

    Even, if he plays by those rules. He will not hold office forever. And, then another person will step into The White House. How can we be sure that he/or she doesn't abuse this power. We are not.

    9/11, and other terrorist attacks have made us afraid. Even, though I keep hearing we are not. Bills like this say we are. When, I die I want to die believe that our freedoms is the true riches of this country. I want to die believing that there are still people who want to preserve our freedoms at any cost.

    Another one of his ideas. Is to monitor who has illegal copywritten material stored on their computers. If, whatever moron he appoints thinks you MIGHT have an illegally downloaded movie, or music on your computers. They can come into your home without probable cause, and seize your computer equipment. They don't even have to have any evidence of such activity. I think I am out of gas talking about this. And, I know I went on long. But, this is a great concern of mine. I will write my congressmen about it. And, if any of you believe in God. I would suggest praying along with writting your representatives.
     

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    Seems pretty reasonable to me, Malomojo.

    Now you need to do your duty to your family and country and learn how to use a firearm properly. : )

    They are a lot of fun, and as safe as the person holding them.
     

    Hoji

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    Ok, I have no clue how to use a gun. And, I couldn't begin to tell you what kind of gun is good to hunt with. But, I only became a memeber to comment on this. This Hot Air article was interesting. However, I have to disagree with the person who wrote it. When, she said that she would rather trust George Bush with this then Obama.

    I totally disagree. We shouldn't give any president powers such as these. Our country was founded on basic freedoms. And, privacy being a biggie. I am almost certain that people will be for this. Why? Because, the President is saying we have to protect our Countries computer system, and the sensitive data that is in them. Although, I am very much for this. I am against the plan that he wants to execute to get this done.

    I remember hearing about this when George Bush was president. I was with my grandmother, and I immediatly had a problem with it. I told my grandmother my concerns. And, she thought I was being ridiculous. She claimed that George Bush would NEVER use wiretaping to invade anyones privacy just to do it. Then, she looked at me, and said "Well, Trent. If you have nothing to hide. Then, you will be ok"

    This shocked me, and what she said speaks volumes with the morons who will want to back this bill. I would also like to point out, that I am not a Republican, or a Democrat. I simply vote for who I think will do a better job in this country. Besides that, I believe both parties have an agenda.

    And, to let you all know, I am for the right to bear arms. My roomates think that 9/11 was staged. Although, I do not believe this, I do believe it gave those overpowering assholes in Washington exactly what it needed. A reason to watch us, and every move we make.

    You can't as a government in a country like this say "We will watch ever move you make." and have it stick. But, if you say something like "We must monitor calls, bust in your home without probable cause, and read your mail. In the name of National Security, and to protect you, and your loved ones." Then, you will have people that will scream for that protection. And, not think a thing about our freedoms.

    This bill spits in the faces of our wonderful forefathers who founded this country. And, The President should be asamed of it. Again, I am for a solution to better protecting our national computers from cyber terrorists, and hackers. But, not like this. We might as well call our government a Totalitarism society if this goes through.

    I know, people say write your congressmen about this. But, is that the only solution? I am 33 years old, and to be quite honest. This bill terrifies me. Lets say for the moment that the President uses this bill as it is intended to be used for. And, to make wise choices as to whose internet activity poses a threat, and take action on it.

    Even, if he plays by those rules. He will not hold office forever. And, then another person will step into The White House. How can we be sure that he/or she doesn't abuse this power. We are not.

    9/11, and other terrorist attacks have made us afraid. Even, though I keep hearing we are not. Bills like this say we are. When, I die I want to die believe that our freedoms is the true riches of this country. I want to die believing that there are still people who want to preserve our freedoms at any cost.

    Another one of his ideas. Is to monitor who has illegal copywritten material stored on their computers. If, whatever moron he appoints thinks you MIGHT have an illegally downloaded movie, or music on your computers. They can come into your home without probable cause, and seize your computer equipment. They don't even have to have any evidence of such activity. I think I am out of gas talking about this. And, I know I went on long. But, this is a great concern of mine. I will write my congressmen about it. And, if any of you believe in God. I would suggest praying along with writting your representatives.
    Great post. If you are in the Austin area PM me and I will pay your range fees and give you a complimentary afternoon of basic firearm instruction. I will include handguns and long guns. Dont be a stranger to our little forum.
     

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    Great post. If you are in the Austin area PM me and I will pay your range fees and give you a complimentary afternoon of basic firearm instruction. I will include handguns and long guns. Dont be a stranger to our little forum.
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    Hey man this is a good deal that you should act on I grew up around guns and cops, and I took a course with Hoji and learned a lot. And to get complementary anything is a good deal these days. Malomojo it is good to have you hear, and glad to hear another one of "we the people" stand up and say something. Take Hoji up on his offer and learn how to use a firearm. You will have a blast, learn a skill, pick up a new hobby and be better equipped to protect your family and your rights. Great post stay involved and come around more often. O yeah, Howdy!:patriot:
     

    malomojo

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    I am glad I am being so welcomed. Thank you. I am totally against this Obama internet thing. I found you guys by researching this crappy Obama Internet bill. But, I have to say. I researched something that had totally nothing to do with Obama at all. And, I am almost sorry I found the site I found.

    Almost, but not quite. Because, this websites forum gives you a clear picture of how ignorant some American people can be about Socialism, and total government control.
    Let me first tell you how I came about this website. I was researching a person named Francis E Dec Esq (He has nothing to do with Obama at all. But, his rants are of a comedic type. Long story, I will tell you in another thread. LOL) he had a new rant called Astrocism. I googled it. And, one of the searches came up with a Obama forum.

    Astrocism is a fictional religion. And, I got curious as to why it would end up in an Obama forum. It seemed that someone was copying, and pasting Decs rants on this forum. Now, I guess this didn't make these guys very happy. So, they threatend to ban these members.

    I have a weird sense of humor. So.... I was going to be a member only to say "Gee, get a sense of humor or something. Turned out though. When, I tried. I found out. You have to pay a $2 fee to post anywhere in the forum. I thought "No way." So, I stumbled onto a place where I could post. It was an introduction to their forum. And, this is what it it said:

    The Obama Forum is for those who have become enlightened, and know that Obama is the one and true savior of mankind. And that only through him can we become a truly socialist Utopian society.

    This is an exclusive club.

    Becoming a full member of THE OBAMA FORUM allows one to post throughout the forum and has many other benefits.

    Click your "User CP' located in the navigation bar. Stroll down to "Miscellaneous" and click "Paid Subscriptions" This will open a new payment window. Membership fee is $2 a month, payable yearly. Once subscription is set your user account will automatically upgrade.

    And, here is my response to that garbage.

    I can post a message here. Good, first off. I would like to say that I am not politically correct. And, I hold a similar policy to your membership policy. "non refundable. Whatever I say to you I mean. And, the chances of me taking them back are pretty slim.

    Now, lets get started. Let me point out by saying.. YOUR A MORON!!! Yep, I said it. Why? You will more then likely twist my words in your head. But, I don't care. You are a moron because you believe what you believe in this man. He is only the President of The United States. And, although I REALLY couldn't stand Bush. I am starting very quickly not to like President Obama. I will say this, I believe in the dream just like you do. However, I fear that your ideas are a bit tainted.

    It would be wonderful to live in peace, without war. I think everyone wants that. However, you are forgetting a small factor. There are mad men out there that think they can roll over anyone, or anything. Thinking nothing of the rights of others, or their well being. Lets take the President (Or, whatever the hell he is) of Iran. He came out and said. That, if he could. He would take out Israel, and its Alies. Oh, yeah. Did I mention that we are one of their big alies?

    THAT MEANS US TO!!! Now, I am certain that you would like nothing more then to sit down, and talk sense to a man like the president of Iran, who uses Islam as a weapon of hate rather then what it was meant for. We can send him, and North Korea all of those little official warning notes all we want. However, the people who can sit and talk with these evil men, and those silly little UN warning notes telling them to stop making nukes. Will burn up too. And, why?

    Because, of people like yourself. Do you know that our freedom has a price? We didn't just wonder about to the USA, and Make up these rules of freedom, and lived happily ever after. We had to fight for our freedom. We did so from England, we did so for ourselves. And, when Adolf Hitler wanted to control the world. We did it then.

    I will agree with you on some issues. Why we went to Iraq I will never know. Other, so that George Bush could finish up what his Father couldn't get done. And, as far as I am concerned. That holds no merit for war. We need to defend our country, and its freedoms.

    However, if you truely believe in Mr Obama. And, you really want that Utopia, which by the way. Cannot exist on this Earth so long as we have mad men such as the ones I pointed out. Then, please send me whatever drugs you are taking.

    So far, The President showed me that he wants to control, and not govern. The Internet being my biggest problem with him. Lets see how you like his ideas, when one day you are posting on this forum. And, police come into your home. And, search your computers without probable cause, or merit. And, without a search warrent. Or, lets see how you all get when they decided that you maybe running too much bandwith on your machine. And, shut you down for fear that you might be a terrorist.

    I promise your whole group will be the first ones who cry like little babies, and scream for something, or someone to protect your American freedoms that you have so foolishly put in the hands of your so called "Savior"

    I am concerned about our governent invading our privacy. This is wrong, and the internet bill spits in the face of our forefathers. And, if you really back the President on this. Then, you not only don't care for your own rights. But, you really don't care about our Country.

    What really gets me. Is that you charge for people to be members on this forum. So, not only are you MORONS, you also don't want anyone to give an honest opinion about your so called "Savior" nor do you want to have a debate about anything he does. Which in my eyes makes you

    A. People who don't believe enough to defend Obama fully.
    B. Just spinless sponges who talk about Utopia, Peace, and love. And, don't have enough guts to really do something about war, or the things that make up the evils that threaten us everyday. I almost want to pay your $2 fee. And I very well might.

    I DO NOT support George Bush. What a tool. And, believe me. I am a jaded out spoken person. And, I really don't want to come off as someone who wants soldiers carrying guns, and killing people for pleasure. But, we have to fight for freedom. It doesn't come to us on a silver plate.

    I don't have much more to say, and I would wager I have pissed whoever is reading this off. But, remember this. If the day comes and your "Savior" Has messed up our military so much. That, we do allow ourselves to be overtaken by a government. That could care less about peace, and Utopia. And, are only in it to take over this Country.

    Those people will come after people like you first. Because it will be you. That invite them in. To destroy this country.

    Oh, and by the way. I came to this site by way of a thread called Astrocism. It was written by a guy named Francis E Dec Esq. I have a link to a fan site of his. This is for humor, and I DO NOT endorse his racial views. However, if you read the rants, and listen to the recordings. They are quite comical. I will put up the link to the main website, and to the Astrocism one. I have to say. They are funny, in a bizzare sense. I hope you do find the humor in them. As, Francis Dec was officially insane when he wrote them. Well, I am off. And, I hope you all do find that Utopia. I think the only people that truely don't want peace on Earth. Are the powerful politicians, and greedy industry owners.

    (I tried to post the Francis Dec sites. But, found out I had to post 15 more posts to post links. So, I put a P.S. after the ending)

    P.S. Forget about the links. Turns out, you guys don't have a sense of humor either. Will our Utopian society be made up of a Totalitarism rule, and no sense of humor? I might as well defect to Austrailia or something. Just Google Francis E Dec if you want a laugh. Geez, 15 posts, then I get to post links up? Sounds like you guys want to rule this forum, like Obama wants to rule this country. Controling every little aspect. GOOD NIGHT!!

    Before I posted this to you guys. I emailed this to Ralph A.K.A. Hoji. I was concerned that my position on George Bush would offend the members on here. Seeing as it is Texas Gun Talk. And, knowing that President Bush's home state is Texas. He told me was long as I was not a jerk. I could post how I felt. So, I hope no one is mad at me for the stuff I said about Mr Bush. But, these people on this forum. Are totally weird.

    After I left my message, something inside me told me to look into it more. Not sure what it was, so I did. And, the threads I found shocked me. Now, mind you. These people live in the USA. They believe that 89% of gun owners are terrorists. This pisses me off, and I don't even own a gun. And, they also believe that if you own a gun. You are a racist. Not, sure how they come to that conclusions.

    Anyways, I read a thread where they look for anything on cars that is not for Obama, or Socialism. They take down the license plate numbers, along with the state that issued them. And, post them on their websites. They believe in making lists. BIG TIME!!! They encourage people to keep lists of suspects who they think are the enemy, because they don't believe in socialism, or Obama. It gets weirder. I read a story of a guy, who claimed that he ran a Ron Paul supporter off the road, after he alegedly cut him off. And, said something like "I got the enemy." And, these jokers call gun owners terrorists? What a bunch of balloon heads.

    And, here is where it gets freakier. I saw where someone put up a vintage Russian poster. For Communist propaganda. And, they said "I would rather be Red, then Dead."

    And, remember when I said that they like to keep lists? Well, they think that Obama should ban Google altogether. And, they also have a list of websites that support America, and freedom that they think he should ban.

    Now, personally. I don't think Obama would support these guys. But, I only found out how radical they are AFTER I posted my thoughts on them. LOL

    However, I rarely go back there. It scares me that people like this live in our country, and believe this. It scares me even more that they hate people who want to perserve the freedoms that were founded on this country. If any of you want to go on the link, and sign up (You can get membership for free. But, can only post in the area I posted in. And, you can browse too) Go ahead. If anything, I encourage you guys to just look. And, know that we are hated for trying to keep our rights that we have here. And, for perserving freedom. I can't stand people who hate anyone for anything. The link is.

    The Obama Forum

    I think I posted it up right. Ok, now for one more thing. I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE FOUND THIS PLACE!!! I support our right to bear arms, and I support our rights to be free. I believe that you guys are doing a wonderful job. And, I am glad I emailed Ralph, and I am glad I was so welcomed here. And, I will post more in new threads. PROMISE!!! In the meantime. I hope you get some useful info from me. I am a total geek, that researches everything. So, if I see anything that comes in conflict with our right to bear arms, or any other right that might be in jeopordy. I will let you know. And, if by some remote chance that any of you know, or have heard of Francis E Dec. I will post the links (I think I can here. LOL) They are funny, and not meant to be taken litterally. Which, is why I thought it was funny on the Obama forum. The links are.

    Welcome To the Official Francis E. Dec Fanclub!
    Francis E. Dec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    UbuWeb Sound - Francis E. Dec

    Again, thanks. And, I will be keeping up with this forum. :)

    Trent
     

    malomojo

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    I have a tendency to write a lot. I wasn't sure if I should post so much to you guys on a second post. But, I felt it was important that you know about these bone heads. I am still in aw over it. If any of you guys check that site out. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks again. Oh, and I will try to take Hoji up on that whenever I get to Austin. I am in need of a trip in a few months or so. ;)

    Trent
     

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    This sounds like a kinda Noe Nazi site for pinko commies And your right it is scary, but like I said Obama is just like Adolf Hitler and is coming into power the same way. They hang signs up for the red Russia? wackoes that need to watch Enemy at the Gate and see what commie army's do to their own citizens and troops. Stupid f$#k's don't even stand a chance against their own "savior" and they don't even know it. I will let my signature line say the rest. :patriot:
     

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    You know, I like you. But, sad to say that there are some people who really do believe that you can achieve a peaceful society by letting the government rule this way. And, those slobber dribbling morons on that Obama forum is proof that this is not so. Adolf Hitler promised the people of Germany better lives, remember. Germany had a horrible economy before Hitler promised more jobs, food, and better lives.

    I am certain that at first. Someone said "Lets teach people about how Obama wants to help us toward a Utopian Society" That is how it always starts out. It never starts out with someone wanting to run someone off the road because of what they believe. But, look at it now.

    History has taught nothing to those people at the Obama forum. They believe that someone can bring these things to us. For nothing. Look at Communism. Where is the great Russia today? They can call us Capitalistic pigs until they turn blue. But, statistically capatilism last longer then every other form of society to date. Every tyrant, and dictator has promised the people of whatever country they were to take over a better life (With the acception of countries taken over by force of course) and what has happend. Disaster. If Obama really is out to get us this way (And to be honest. I don't think even he is as hardcore as these screwups) he will be in for a longterm windfall. Communism doesn't work. And, neither will whatever he plans on turning us into. I am glad to be amonst those who want to keep America free. YEAH!! :)
     

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    holy shit that's a scary forum, worse than some of the white knight/stormfront forums I've accidentally stumbled across (not paying attention, ballistic research, google linked, I swear!). All of the praise for obama and outright socialism makes me physically sick, and a bit nervous. The ebonics and racism didn't sit well either. It's just hard to believe there's actually anyone like that in this country. I see documentaries on evangelicles and neos, so maybe I'm desensatized, but this is a counter culture that I had believed was like a bedtime story, the keiser socei's of glocktalk. Thanks for opening my eyes to how serious this cancer is.

    P.S, tell them good luck running the ranch haned powerstroke off the road with a prius/cadillac.
     

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    OH YES!!! I know what you mean. I have seen some freaky shit. But, nothing like these guys. I have to agree with you about running the ranchers (he acctually calls them Red Necks) off the road. This guy claims this is true. But, again. The idea that he may, or may not have done isn't what scares me. What scares me is when he says he got the enemy. He also, claimed this happend on the Golden Gate Bridge, in San Francisco. Weirdo's BLA!!!!!
     

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    OH YES!!! I know what you mean. I have seen some freaky shit. But, nothing like these guys. I have to agree with you about running the ranchers (he acctually calls them Red Necks) off the road. This guy claims this is true. But, again. The idea that he may, or may not have done isn't what scares me. What scares me is when he says he got the enemy. He also, claimed this happend on the Golden Gate Bridge, in San Francisco. Weirdo's BLA!!!!!

    Well in truth, if he's for aggressive tactics in turning our country into a socialist empire, then yes, I am the enemy. And if we ever meet on a field of battle, he can tell his god he has never seen malice and perfectly personified as when he met me. But let's hope it never comes to that.
     

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    Those are some crazy mo foes! And the day anyone tries to "round up my white ass" is the day day I start looking at the Obama Nation as The enemy! I promise you that. And Obamarine WTF? These people are physico!
     

    Hoji

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    There is a poster on that forum that goes under the name " Ridingwithforrest" witrh his avatar being a portrait of Bedford Forrest. This would be the Confederate general that later started the Ku Klux Klan.

    I think it is kind of funny that no one over there has gotten it.
     
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