The U.N. and International Treaties

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  1. TrailDust

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    Excerpted from the NRA:


    The UN And International Treaties

    Wednesday, November 25, 2009


    Over the last few weeks, we have received many inquiries regarding the UN and the impact of international treaties on our Second Amendment freedom.

    The NRA has been engaged at the United Nations and elsewhere internationally in response to anti-small arms initiatives for over 14 years. In most cases, agendas for the elimination of private ownership of firearms are disguised as calls for international arms control to stem the flow of illicit military weapons. These instruments are generally promoted by a small group of nations and a large number of Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) working in conjunction with departmental bureaucracies in multi-national institutions such as the UN and European Union.

    The new U.S. administration, to no one’s surprise, has changed direction in the UN with respect to international small arms control initiatives that were resisted by the previous administration.

    The current issue under discussion, the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), is in the early stages of the negotiation process. There is no actual draft text at this time. Work on the ATT is scheduled to continue by a consensus process between now and 2012. It should be noted that any treaty must be approved by two thirds of the U.S. Senate for ratification.

    Attempts to thwart our freedoms should be no surprise, given the anti-gun climate of the international community in general, and the current U.S. administration in particular.

    More generally, the NRA does not concern itself with foreign policy or arms control initiatives—except to the extent they would directly or indirectly affect Second Amendment rights.

    We have been actively opposing transnational efforts that would limit Second Amendment freedoms. For many years, NRA has been monitoring and actively fighting any credible attempts on the part of the UN to restrict our sovereignty and gun rights. As a recognized Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) at the United Nations since 1997, NRA gives gun owners a strong voice in the UN’s debate over global “gun control.” As one of over 2,000 NGOs representing everyone from religious groups to the banking industry, NRA has access to UN meetings that are closed to the general public, and is able to distribute informational materials to participants in UN activities.

    Most importantly, NRA’s status as an NGO allows us to monitor more closely the internal UN debate over firearm issues and report back to our members. The role NRA plays within the UN as an NGO is almost identical to the role our registered lobbyists play every day on Capitol Hill and in state capitals across the nation—educating and informing decision-makers of the facts behind the debate, and working to protect the interests of American gun owners and NRA members.

    Due to our NGO status, NRA was able to take an active role in thwarting the absurdly titled “UN Conference to Review Progress Made in the Implementation of the Programme of Action to Prevent and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects” in 2006, and the previous meeting, the “UN Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons” in the summer of 2001.

    The UN Small Arms Conference ended in deadlock with no formal conclusions or recommendations, due in large part to the NRA. In the final analysis, the complexity of the issue and the concerns of hunters, sport shooters and firearm owners world-wide prevailed. The failure of the program was total; no recommendations on ammunition, civilian possession or future UN meetings, or for that matter any other subjects, were adopted.

    In addition to its UN activities, NRA is a founding member of the World Forum on the Future of Sport Shooting Activities (WFSA). The WFSA is an association of hunting, shooting, and industry organizations that was founded in 1996. The WFSA includes over 35 national and international organizations, and represents over 100 million sport shooters worldwide.

    NRA members may rest assured that we are actively engaged in international matters. We have never hesitated, nor will we hesitate, to use the political and other resources available to us to resist any international agreement that could in any way affect our Second Amendment rights.
     


  2. Freedom1911

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    Obama will make it happen and the states will divide.
    The libs in congress are so hot to take out constitutional rights away that they fail to see that some people just will not stand for it.
    They will sign a treaty that mandates gun confiscation and states will leave the union, and all hell will brake loose in the country when the cops start collecting.


    These people in washington want this country to collapse.
     
  3. hkusp1

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    Even with all the armed forces and local pd they still wouldn't have enough manpower to run a confiscation Like that. Beside I live in Texas like anyone around here would let dohbama take their gun away. If it did happen Texas would be the first to say see ya later.
     
  4. Texas1911

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    Obama has nothing to do with it ... the Senate would have to ratify it, and it would instantly be taken to court over the constitutionality.

    They can't even pass Blair-Holt for national registration, what makes you think they can confiscate firearms in a blink of an eye?

    This is nothing more than people getting worked up over absolutely nothing, again.

    The states aren't going to divide, no one is going to get your guns, absolutely nothing will change in regards to our daily lives if this even gets ratified. It has nothing to do with internal US regulations, and everything to do with the small arms trade on the world scale. They are trying to limit the trade of guns to shitholes like Africa.

    The first step for alot of us is to start thinking first, comprehending what we are reading, questioning the source, and learning that groups like the NRA are going to play this crap up for money and support because they know plenty of people won't do any thinking or comprehending. It's the same thing they did with Blair-Holt, and the other bills that have been cobweb city for the past decade.
     
  5. TrailDust

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    Thing of it is I trust any company or organization out to make a buck or two much more than any government. This is the same government--Senators, House representatives, and Obama included--that swore up and down no one would be forced to have government health care and would be able to pay their own way if they chose. As it stands now, the health care bill passed by the House and being considered by the Senate requires a confiscation of funds and/or prison of up to five years for anyone who does not participate. It's not a leap to assume that given how much the Constitution has been trounced the last few months, our guns are not safe from the present Administration.
     
  6. cuate

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    I trust the UN and the obama Administration about like Patton did the Russian in the movie of that name (Patton w/George C. Scott).
     
  7. Texas1911

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    Sure, anything is at risk. You could die tomorrow from being sodomized to death by a gorilla freshly escaped from the zoo, but how likely is that to happen tomorrow?

    So many people I talk to think they are going to pass legislation at any second behind our backs to ban all guns and ammo, and be kicking down our door tomorrow at 5 AM to get them. I'm not joking, this is legitimately what they think and how they act.

    Rationality is something the conservatives have over liberals, but I have yet to see much of it since Obama took office. It's been nothing but sensationalist "The World is Going to End!" talk. If that's all people think is going to happen, then it's going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    99% of the people that bring up the HR45 and other bills from the chain emails don't even know how Congress works. They think it's some kind of overnight process. Bills like that would take years, ... hell just look at the Health Care Bill that has yet to do anything and that the Dems keep changing their story on, weekly.

    I'm all for letting the bastards have mine warm, empty, and shoved up the ass of the first Federal agent ballsy enough to come and get it, but let's at least have some degree of intelligence.
     
  8. TrailDust

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  9. DCortez

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    We talking Austin or Houston?
     
  10. Texas1911

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    Kommiefornia ...
     

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