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  • gdr_11

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    Pushing 70 years old and now living in the country on acreage with a house set back from the road, I figure it is time to acquire a rifle that can provide some good perimeter defense fire power out to about 300 yds in the event of a SHTF situation where pretty much anyone that plows through my gate is up to no good and would need to be quickly convinced to move on and find easier pickings. I am no longer the kind of rifle shot that I used to be so at this late stage I am looking for the right combination of accuracy, capacity and penetration power. Not a big fan of the 5.56 but I realize its advantages of light weight and accuracy over the 7.62 rifles I have used all my life. I have never owned an AR although I am familiar with them and have shot enough of my friends' to be comfortable with their capabilities for perimeter defense. My two main rifles in the past have been a Remington 742 in 30-06 and a Winchester 100 in .308. Both excellent and accurate rifles for me and the main reasons I never bought an AR. Neither, however, has the capacity or reliability I would want in something that my life or family depended upon to hold off a half dozen or perps intent on bodily harm.

    Given that I intend to buy a quality AR in 5.56, I am a bit at a loss about the following:
    • 30 rd magazines seem to be the right compromise between capacity and weight. Are there better options if defending a well entrenched position?
    • What kind of optics? I am used to using quality 3 X 9 variable scopes but it seems I might be better with a more rugged "point and shoot" optic that provides better sight picture instead of magnification.
    • Night vision is fine for hog hunting but is there any rationale to have it on a defense rifle?
    • Is a suppressor worth the paperwork and cost for this kind of rifle? Will it provide recoil advantages in a combat situation?
    I hope these questions don't sound stupid, but I have spent my life relying on handguns for home defense. Of course, living in the cities and suburbs is a different animal and I now realize the I am a bit out of my element in the country and want to have a plan to defend my property if need be. I feel perfectly safe where I am now but, then again, no place is really safe these days, especially when some folks view older citizens as easy targets. Part of me says having a rifle at the ready with several hundred rounds loaded is foolishness, but the other part tells me it is no more foolish than when I lived in the city and had several pistols stashed in different rooms of the house so I would never be caught off guard.
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    mwrookie

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    If you are looking for a quality AR talk to the guys at SOLGW, awesome Texas company. Mike is one of the owners. Very down to earth and knows his stuff. If you are retired LE or Mil I believe they have discounts. I have zero association with them, although I will admit I would love to work for them. Although it is hit or miss if Mike is in the shop his staff know what they are talking about as well. They do build rifles as orders come in some it may take some time, but worth the wait. https://sonsoflibertygunworks.com/
     

    Jigo23

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    An AR15 with a red dot would probably work just fine.

    Excellent choice for stated purpose. If magnification is preferred, several excellent 1-8x tactical scopes available.

    Could also go with AR10 in .308 (7.62x51) with optic but w/20rd mags are heavy.
    Or Springfield M1A Scout Squad (.308) with preferred optic if semi-auto is preferred but not in AR platform.
     

    baboon

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    Being 70 I would think you are familiar with the M1 Garand rifle. 300 yard shot on vehicles APIT would stop the threat. Somewhere I seen a SAGE stock for the Garand rifle. That would ease mounting various optics that would work fine. A Barrett on a good pedestal mount would work even better.
     

    oldag

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    AR-10 for your application. The Ruger SR762 is a fine rifle. PMAG 25 rounder mags.

    Red dot (Aimpoint PRO) with a 3x flip mount magnifier for the longer ranges. PWS PRC brake which essentially eliminate muzzle rise.

    If you can afford it, a clip on thermal would provide a great edge at night. But those are very pricey.
     

    EZ-E

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    300 blk has better ammo capacity ...if im defending my compound against 3 or more intruders I want the ability to lay some firepower down range
     

    Dad_Roman

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    ***YOU***

    ***YOU***
    Pushing 70 years old......
    I am no longer the kind of rifle shot that I used to be....
    I have never owned an AR.....
    comfortable with their capabilities.....
    I realize its advantages of light weight and accuracy....


    ***Le GUN***
    ..... provide some good perimeter defense fire power out to about 300 yds ......anyone that plows through my gate so at this late stage I am looking for ....the right combination of accuracy, capacity and penetration power.
    ....hold off a half dozen or perps




    Given that I intend to buy a quality AR in 5.56, I am a bit at a loss about the following:
    • 30 rd magazines seem to be the right compromise between capacity and weight. Are there better options if defending a well entrenched position? No
    • What kind of optics?Whatever works for you but not nessessary. Like RoadRunner and Vaquero said, go with a reddot. I am used to using quality 3 X 9 variable scopes but it seems I might be better with a more rugged "point and shoot" optic that provides better sight picture instead of magnification.There ya go...point and shoot!!! Nutthin better.
    • Night vision is fine for hog hunting but is there any rationale to have it on a defense rifle?Not this one, no.
    • Is a suppressor worth the paperwork and cost for this kind of rifle? Negative. Will it provide recoil advantages in a combat situation?Negative.
    I hope these questions don't sound stupid,......

    No such thing:green:
     

    ZX9RCAM

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    So, I would have trouble hitting a target at 100 yards with no magnification (he's10 years older than me), and he wants to be able to shoot 300 yards.
    Is an RDS his best option really?
     
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