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  • mp_tx

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    I bought my Cannon through Costco. Advertised with electronic lock. Costco informed me it would be drop shipped from Cannon. Called Cannon with my order number and they swapped to dial lock without any issue.


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    MTA

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    Yep, mine is also recessed in the side of a closet where side shelves once were. Fit in with 1/4 to spare on either side of a stud wall, and secured through a hardware floor into slab.

    Security being relative, they can have at the contents, but the idea is to slow them by having to work at it.

    Exactly this. By denying them every side beside the thickest part, the door, it is increasing my chances. Paired with home security, a few dogs who hate strangers and the fact that someone is in my house at all times, I think I am good to go although I know in the back of my head that these are like we said so far, deterrents. Definitely not a replacement for situational awareness and training but they supplement security and I feel its money well spent
     

    subseashooter

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    I'm not trying to dissuade you, just something to think about.
    Absolutely!! I've had hours and hours of these types of conversations since my first safe was attacked.

    Now that I need another one at a lower price point, I'm running the situation through my head again, trying to balance needs vs value vs quality.

    Thank you so much for the input!!!

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    Southpaw

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    Absolutely!! I've had hours and hours of these types of conversations since my first safe was attacked.

    Now that I need another one at a lower price point, I'm running the situation through my head again, trying to balance needs vs value vs quality.

    Thank you so much for the input!!!

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    Sorry to go OT here but, is there a concern of them coming back knowing what they know?
     

    avvidclif

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    Does it happen to have a key backup in case the electronic keypad dies? I know that people have had some issues with their keypads dying and then being locked out of the safe. Seems like Cannon's warranty service is hit and miss. Just a few examples and more can be found via Bing or DuckDuckGo. I would leave it up to you to look into the actual ins and outs of the warranty but locksmiths aren't cheap in case Cannon pulls some crap on you

    http://www.xdtalk.com/threads/cannon-safes-warranty-probs.161286/
    https://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2008/12/cannon-safe-failure.html

    None of the Cannon Safes I've looked at have a key backup. If your keypad dies it takes a locksmith to get in your safe. Google Cannon Safe problems and see what you find. I passed on a Cannon safe. Their support record is not very good.
     

    subseashooter

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    Sorry to go OT here but, is there a concern of them coming back knowing what they know?
    I'm in a different house in a different town an hour away now.

    Now, the police didn't recover everything that was stolen, including stuff that could be used to find me. So there is that. Last I looked, the trial date hadn't been set yet for the one guy they caught. He, at the time of the burglary, was out on bond for armed robbery, and had just found out that the best deal he was gonna get was 2 years in the pen. Then he went on a tear that culminated with me. Hopefully they out the dude someplace and forget where they left him.

    Side note.....my homeowner's insurance policy doubled every year since the break in, and was what made me finally decide to sell the house.

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    subseashooter

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    There is more to it than that, that makes most folks sick to hear, but I don't want to type it all out on my phone.

    Suffice to say that this burglary really REALLY screwed me.

    It also forces my hand in bringing my girlfriend to Texas, marrying her, and starting our family.

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    Mrvmax

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    I have that exact safe but I paid more than that. I’ve had zero issues with it and for that price it’s going to be hard to beat. As was stated, any safe can be opened but they are there to slow the thieves down. I use layers of protection, video cameras, monitored alarm, the safe and if all else fails I’m insured.
     

    mx711yam

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    I had one like that, dumped it for a Ft. Knox when I finally started researching safes. Huge price difference but quality difference is insane.
     

    BillRedding

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    "Unfortunately, I'm stuck in my price range....if it was lower, I'd sell part of the inventory to afford something better. There is a general break over in save to value numbers here at a grand though....Then again at about 4-6 grand, and again when you top 10-12 grand." -- subseashooter

    You don't even have to go that high price-wise: Buy a "Sturdy Safe" (am surprised no one mentioned them) and get way MORE for your money. I have a 2419 model myself, and yes, they're not true "safes" but ARE to-end security-wise RSCs. Most so-called "gun safes" out there are RSCs...but SOME are WAY better than others. MOST are just like the others -- easy to get into. Even the expensive ones.

    But when it comes to a Sturdy Safe, it'd be WAY HARDER to get into than a $4K+ Liberty Presidential RSC would be (I had one previously). I'd even bet a Sturdy Safe would be harder to force open than a $6K Ft. Knox (also a RSC). Plus, Sturdy is American-made (in Fresno, CA) with American steel, not poorly made in China with Chinese crap steel. BIG difference, no matter how much the Chinese "safes" cost.

    Yes, thicker steel IS better, and IMO, Sturdy makes the best/most secure RSCs (aka: "gun safes") of them all. Best value for your dollar...IMO.

    -- BR
    (President, Open Carry El Paso)
     
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    subseashooter

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    "Unfortunately, I'm stuck in my price range....if it was lower, I'd sell part of the inventory to afford something better. There is a general break over in save to value numbers here at a grand though....Then again at about 4-6 grand, and again when you top 10-12 grand." -- subseashooter

    You don't even have to go that high price-wise: Buy a "Sturdy Safe" (am surprised no one mentioned them) and get way MORE for your money. I have a 2419 model myself, and yes, they're not true "safes" but ARE to-end security-wise RSCs. Most so-called "gun safes" out there are RSCs...but SOME are WAY better than others. MOST are just like the others -- easy to get into. Even the expensive ones.

    But when it comes to a Sturdy Safe, it'd be WAY HARDER to get into than a $4K+ Liberty Presidential RSC would be (I had one previously). I'd even bet a Sturdy Safe would be harder to force open than a $6K Ft. Knox (also a RSC). Plus, Sturdy is American-made (in Fresno, CA) with American steel, not poorly made in China with Chinese crap steel. BIG difference, no matter how much the Chinese "safes" cost.

    Yes, thicker steel IS better, and IMO, Sturdy makes the best/most secure RSCs (aka: "gun safes") of them all. Best value for your dollar...IMO.

    -- BR
    (President, Open Carry El Paso)
    I was eyeballing those, thanks for the recommendation!!

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    Charlie

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    My old "dial" Cannon safe has done me well for many years (with one exception). One afternoon it decided it would not open (wasn't me or anyone else that was going to get it open! I worked on it a couple of days with no success. I called Cannon, you know they have a 100% lifetime warranty on their safes ........... Bullshit. They said they could have someone come out but I would have to pay them. Upon completion of the worthless phone call I continued to work on it, eventually it came open and I never did figure out why it wouldn't work right.
    KEEP IN MIND ............ CANNON'S "LIFETIME" WARRANTY IS NOT!!!
     

    avvidclif

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    Third word, DIAL

    If you look up reviews on Cannon Safes you will find thousands of complaints and 1-2 positive reviews. On the keypad safes there is no backup system, if it dies call a locksmith. I went with a Stack-On. Built about the same as a Cannon but behind the keypad is a hole for a funny looking 6" long key. Mine is the 40 gun and it weighs abt 500 lbs.
     
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