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  • Aggiemike96

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    A co-worker and I were having a discussion regarding a "day planner" that was designed to be used for conceal carry. We looked at Galco's website, and they have one available. Two questions come to mind: 1) Is this legal as this will not technically be on our person (rather, in a "book" that might be sitting on the table in a restaurant, for example). 2) Can anyone share some personal experiences regarding this type of "off-body" concealment?
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    navyguy

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    I think that as long as the gun is concealed and you have control of it, that method would be legal. But, from a tactical stand point that is a poor option. Deployment would be very slow, and just like a purse, it could be snatched from you if a thief thought there was some value in it.
     

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    Oh boy. Concealment for tactical advantage requires "ready" and "speedy" access to your weapon. Therefore, a planner is worthless and nonsensical.
     

    DoubleActionCHL

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    Carrying means "on or about your person," so a planner qualifies as carrying. Just remember that you've got to maintain control of the planner. Will you put it down on the table at a restaurant and leave it behind when you leave? Will you leave it on the seat of your car while pumping gas and some bozo reaches in an snatches it?

    Then you've got to figure out how you'll access your weapon quickly. I believe Galco's has a lanyard that allows you to quickly open it, but it's still a far cry from a holster.

    I'd consider other options before I'd opt for the planner.
     

    Fisherman777

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    Yeah, but untucking your shirt and feeling around for your grip is also not exactly ready or speedy.

    Not so bad. I just jerk the shirt out with my left hand, reach in and draw the gun or I can jerk the shirt out with my right hand and draw the gun if my left is busy. A lot of the time the shirt is either tucked and I wear a light jacket or the shirt is untucked and I can reach under and draw. Or you can call me RJ or you can call me JJ but you dasn't has to call me Mista Johnson. I don't have to feel around for the grip. I can put my hand on it every time.
     

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    Remember in the bathroom not to set it on the floor. Some doctor show on TV advised women about bacteria on their purses from doing that.

    I thought about planners, until an Officer's wife got her purse snatched in the grocery store parking lot, with her gun in the purse ... and it was how women should wear it securely, but the theif cut the strap with his knife ...

    Seriously, better option is, maybe not a whole lot better, but better from a retention standpoint, if you can make it work for you, is a small sized camera/calculator/cellphone/toolkit/first aid kit/extra pens/whatever case holster worn on the belt.


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    It may be a last option so sure if it is the LAST option. I say this because you may run across a situation where it is ideal but I doubt it. To easy for it to be taken away from you by some crack head just wanting money, and damn his luck now he has a shinny new 9mm. In which he will either shoot the crack dealer and take his spot for a while, or he will sell/trade his new 9mm for the crack. The later is more probable. This is why I believe ladies should only carry in their purse as a last resort.
     
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    for an everyday option, I'm with the rest of the responders. However, I have, when going to church, used a large Bible cover, which is pretty much identical to a daily planner, since at church I'd be smacking up against the wood pews. plus, all the hugging and stuff. So it's a viable carry option in certain circumstances, but I'd still side with the majority of responders in saying, "Carry on your body as much as possible".
     

    texas_teacher

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    for an everyday option, I'm with the rest of the responders. However, I have, when going to church, used a large Bible cover, which is pretty much identical to a daily planner, since at church I'd be smacking up against the wood pews. plus, all the hugging and stuff. So it's a viable carry option in certain circumstances, but I'd still side with the majority of responders in saying, "Carry on your body as much as possible".

    I was under the impression a place of worship was a no go zone...
     
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    not that I'm aware of. I will never forget Wedgwood Baptist Church, and I refuse to disarm myself in a huge target such as my church.
     

    texas_teacher

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    not that I'm aware of. I will never forget Wedgwood Baptist Church, and I refuse to disarm myself in a huge target such as my church.

    Look at PC 46.035.6

    § 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.

    (6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other
    established place of religious worship.


    I'd say that it'd be a good idea for you to get over your refusal and disarm yourself... either that or start worshiping at home...

    And as always in this season Merry Christmas...
     

    Seabear1500

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    Texas Teacher read further in your book....

    Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06
    b4 = Hospital - they must post 30.06
    b5 = amusement park - they must post 30.06
    b6 = Churches and such - they must post 30.06

    I hate to say it, but there are many instructors out there that don't teach everything they should, and students that don't learn everything they should. (not directed at anyone in particular)
     

    Seabear1500

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    Look at PC 46.035.6


    I'd say that it'd be a good idea for you to get over your refusal and disarm yourself... either that or start worshiping at home...

    And as always in this season Merry Christmas...

    I for one will not disarm to worship in my church. If they ever post a sign I'll switch churches. I have a feeling our priest and our pastor (we go to different churches) feel safer with no sign posted. Amen
     

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    I for one will not disarm to worship in my church. If they ever post a sign I'll switch churches. I have a feeling our priest and our pastor (we go to different churches) feel safer with no sign posted. Amen

    Our Pastor, all Deacons except one, and roughly half the congregation is armed. We often compare guns, holsters and such in the Church kitchen after services. If someone said we couldn't protect ourselves from the many church shootings that have occurred, and FORCED us to put up a 30.06 sign (LOL good luck trying) we'd rent a tent and have services outside the building on the church's front lawn ;)

    We won't be putting any 30.06 signs on our church that starts with a B and ends in aptist.

    Back on topic, since I don't wear a coat, ...depending on the pants I wear to church, I carry tuckable IWB in church, or in something similar to a nylon Bible cover thing like a Wilderness Safepacker, or a leather camera case looking thing, but they all attach to my belt. A retired LEO carries in a pocket holster and IWB, many of the ladies carry in concealment purses or Bible cover looking things. I hesitate to off body carry in church with kids running around because at our church we all go around shaking hands after service and I'd be afraid I'd set it down and forget it, I doubt I would, but I did forget my Bible on a table or pew once there, so I only wear belt attachable "off body".
     

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    I think that as long as the gun is concealed and you have control of it, that method would be legal. But, from a tactical stand point that is a poor option. Deployment would be very slow, and just like a purse, it could be snatched from you if a thief thought there was some value in it.


    I agree, and that would be a disaster.....
     

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    Texas Teacher read further in your book....

    Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06
    b4 = Hospital - they must post 30.06
    b5 = amusement park - they must post 30.06
    b6 = Churches and such - they must post 30.06

    I hate to say it, but there are many instructors out there that don't teach everything they should, and students that don't learn everything they should. (not directed at anyone in particular)


    Actually it only has to be posted in order for it to be a prosecutable offense... It still is a no go zone and they can still ask you to leave and escort you off if it is discovered or believed that you are carrying...
     
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