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  • RPB

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    Actually it only has to be posted in order for it to be a prosecutable offense... It still is a no go zone and they can still ask you to leave and escort you off if it is discovered or believed that you are carrying...

    As can any business give a verbal 30.06 notice.

    But the statute says the prohibition "does not apply" unless given notice in accordance with 30.06 .... just like any business.

    So by that train of thought, ALL businesses are "no go zones" because they MIGHT give you verbal notice maybe.

    Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06

    Therefore the prohibition "does not apply" to licensees, UNLESS they are given notice in accord with 30.06 .... same as any business.

    One could be prosecuted for failing to comply at ANY business that places a valid compliant 30.06 sign or gives verbal notice under 30.06
    AND it is not a violation if the sign is NOT in compliance with 30.06, such as a gunbuster sign.
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    Hawghauler

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    Fox Creek Leather makes a nice vest with an inner holster. If I carried a planner I would lose it, just like I would a real planner. I place a hat over mine on the seat of my truck when I am driving, inside the waist or jacket pocket when not.
     

    RPB

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    Don't know why I didn't think of that, one of my cousins is a Deacon in a church near Lubbock, and wears a leather vest w/ holster inside it, to church. Looks sharp.
     

    thorkyl

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    Planner, no.

    Our church (a Cowboy Ministry) worships on County owned land in at the rodeo arena.
    The county does not care and I know at least half of the members CC.
    The rest most likely have something in the truck.
     

    APatriot

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    I was under the impression a place of worship was a no go zone...

    Are you a CHL holder? If so, you should have known that places of worship must have a 30.06 posted or of course you be given verbal notice, and of course, you would only be given verbal notice if you opened your "pie hole" or didn't keep your weapon concealed!!

    My daddy told me long ago: let others think you are stupid rather than you opening your mouth and proving it. That advice has served me well for many years.
     

    DoubleActionCHL

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    Look at PC 46.035.6

    § 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.

    (6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other
    established place of religious worship.


    I'd say that it'd be a good idea for you to get over your refusal and disarm yourself... either that or start worshiping at home...

    And as always in this season Merry Christmas...

    He's just fine. You, however, might want to read Section 46.035(i).
     

    Texas42

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    IMHO, carrying a gun in a planner is no different than carrying a gun in a purse or other bag. As others have pointed out, this probably increases the chance that the gun is stolen, but I doubt so many people would as ardently oppose a woman carrying a gun in her purse.

    I'm going to say that most set ups where you carry a gun in a planner would take longer to take out than if it was in some kind of holster on your hip, but that isn't always the case. Besides, some people simply cannot carry a gun on their hip. That being said, I don't think it is a lot to ask to buy new sets of cloths to specifically conceal a gun. I've gotten bigger pants and longer shirts. I do think there are situations and people who would benefit from having a holster built into their "bag/planner/purse."

    Are there "usually" better options? Probably, but if your situation indicates that you would be best served by having a gun in your planner, I'd get a planner that was designed to carry a gun holster. You should be aware of the risks, as you would any type of carry.

    Good luck, be safe.
     

    RPB

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    The statute does not specifically pertain to businesses. Any private property owner (or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner) may give effective notice.

    You are absolutly correct sir.
    I didn't mean to imply it was just businesses, I just used that as an example the poster might be familiar with. My fault. Thanks for catching me.
     

    thorkyl

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    Anybody, may post 30.06.
    If you rent an apartment or a house or own your own house or land you can post 30.06

    All the 30.06 says is that if you have a CHL and you bring your weapon in then you are committing criminal trespass.

    As for places of worship...

    PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
    HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411 , Government Code,
    and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
    person

    (6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established
    place of religious worship

    (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

    Places of worship is (b)(6) so they must give you effective notice under Section 30.06

    See this link for more info...
    http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...1085-statutory-no-carry-zones.html#post116765
     
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