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Tillerson is out, Pompeo is in.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AustinN4, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. oldag

    oldag TGT Addict

    Feb 19, 2015
    Torture program?

    Waterboarding three terrorists (not soldiers) is not a torture program. Comparing that to the Nazis, Japs and VC is simply ludicrous and incredibly ignorant.

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  2. vmax

    vmax TGT Addict

    Apr 15, 2013
    Rex got is ass fired
  3. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

    Mar 5, 2008
    CIA will gets its first director with real world experience in decades!
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  4. majormadmax

    majormadmax TGT Addict

    Aug 27, 2009
    San Antonio!
    Really, you're quoting Snowden as if he is a source of integrity and honor? He is a traitor to this country, and he can go fu*** himself with a jackhammer for all I care about his opinion.

    Haspel has balls, and they probably saved a lot more lives than most realize whereas your buddy Snowden

    Hopefully she'll help re-open the doors to GTMO. There is a long list of "customers" that are overdue in checking in there...
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  5. zincwarrior

    zincwarrior TGT Addict

    Jan 27, 2010
    Texas, land of Tex-Mex
    I want to be Secretary of Pizza.
  6. easy rider

    easy rider Allotropic Transformer TGT Supporter

    Jun 10, 2015
    Odessa, Tx
    We need a secretary of constitution, someone to tell others that you can't do that because it is a right given under the constitution.
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  7. diesel1959

    diesel1959 por vida Lifetime Member

    Nov 7, 2013
    Houston & BFE
    And, when it was being done, it was done within the law and was sanctioned under US policy at the time. There's no claim that the practice continued on her watch after it was withdrawn as a legitimate method. This woman has balls and is a fairly perfect candidate for DCI.
  8. AustinN4

    AustinN4 TGT Addict

    Nov 27, 2013
    OK, I appoint you Secretary of Pizza. There, happy now?
  9. easy rider

    easy rider Allotropic Transformer TGT Supporter

    Jun 10, 2015
    Odessa, Tx
    GOOD! Now I have someone to complain to when my pizza is late.
  10. DwnRange

    DwnRange Active Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Sir, are you really "that" uniformed on the topic of the US torturing prisoners, at Abu Graib and other "rendition" locations around the globe?

    Here's just some of it:
    - Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; pouring cold water on naked detainees; beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; threatening male detainees with rape; allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick, and using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.

    - On November 20, 2002, Gul Rahman froze to death in a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan called the “Salt Pit,” after a CIA case officer ordered guards to strip him naked, chain him to the concrete floor, and leave him there overnight without blankets.

    - Syria was one of the “most common destinations for rendered suspects,” as were Egypt and Jordan. One Syrian prison facility contained individual cells that were roughly the size of coffins. Detainees report incidents of torture involving a chair frame used to stretch the spine (the “German chair”) and beatings.

    - After being extraordinarily rendered by the United States to Egypt in 2002, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, under threat of torture at the hands of Egyptian officials, fabricated information relating to Iraq’s provision of chemical and biological weapons training to Al Qaeda. In 2003, then Secretary of State Colin Powell relied on this fabricated information in his speech to the United Nations that made the case for war against Iraq.

    - Muhammed al-Zery and Ahmed Agiza, while seeking asylum in Sweden, were extraordinarily rendered to Egypt where they were tortured with shocks to their genitals. Al-Zery was also forced to lie on an electrified bed frame.

    The Senate Select Intelligence Committee has completed a 6,000 page report that further details the CIA detention and interrogation operations with access to classified sources. In December, 2014, the committee released a redacted 525-page portion of the report, which included its key findings and an executive summary of the full report. The rest of the report remains classified.

    Torture is prohibited in all circumstances under international law and IMHO all allegations of torture must be investigated and criminally punished no matter "whom" is doing the torturing. The United States prosecuted Japanese interrogators for “waterboarding” U.S. prisoners during World War II, or it that something else you were unaware of sir.........

    A staggering map of the 54 countries that reportedly participated in the CIA’s rendition program - from 2013

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