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  • Dash Riprock

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    Time for Abbott to rip them a new one. The government can't deny access to one group in favor of another. He needs to slap an injunction against the County to stop the rodeo and any other events from taking place there or at any other county owned facility until they sign the agreement with Saxet. And then hold Biscoe et. al. in contempt if they refuse.
     
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    That was my first thought. We going to start having gun shows in Cedar Park more now?

    Theres already been one gun show that I know of for sure, maybe more.

    On the subject of legal action by the AG, what leg does the AG's office have to stand on? Don't the commissioners set the rules for the properties use? When they tried to cancel the contract in January last year it was just based on it being a gun show, not just the premise of background checks.
     

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    That was my first thought. We going to start having gun shows in Cedar Park more now?

    NO! They can't do this. The Expo Center is not a private business. The County can't pick and choose who it allows to use its facilities. This would be like refusing to rent the Center to the NAACP because the neighbors didn't want black people in the area.
     
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    Dash Riprock

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    Theres already been one gun show that I know of for sure, maybe more.

    On the subject of legal action by the AG, what leg does the AG's office have to stand on? Don't the commissioners set the rules for the properties use? When they tried to cancel the contract in January last year it was just based on it being a gun show, not just the premise of background checks.

    They can set rules that they are legally allowed to set, like requiring insurance, deposits, cleaning, etc. But they are not allowed to impose additional restrictions on firearms because the state of Texas specifically denies local governments that power. And they are most certainly not allowed to deny access of an otherwise legal group to county facilities because they happen to disagree with the group's political position. That is the essence of free speech.
     

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    NO! They can't do this. The Expo Center is not a private business. The County can't pick and chose who it allows to use its facilities. This would be like refusing to rent to the NAACP because the neighbors didn't want black people in the area.

    I've had that thought as well. Some groups are more deserving of rights than others to the socialists.
     

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    They can set rules that they are legally allowed to set, like requiring insurance, deposits, cleaning, etc. But they are not allowed to impose additional restrictions on firearms because the state of Texas specifically denies local governments that power. And they are most certainly not allowed to deny access of an otherwise legal group to county facilities because they happen to disagree with the group's political position. That is the essence of free speech.

    Good points.

    What is that law called "pre-emption"? Cities can't pass more restrictive laws on their citizens but perhaps they can on companies? (I don't know)

    This unlike Duck Dynasty deal is a violation of free speech.
     

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    Here's what's surprising though. A lot of these Austin young Austin hipsters and tech nerds are actually for gun rights. I'm not very cool with them because they are also big on "abortion rights" (you don't have the right to kill someone else) and they are big on "gay rights" (whatever that means).

    But anyways, I post on Reddit Austin where they troll the hell out of me for being a social conservative, but check out some of their comments on this thread I started.

    Travis County commissioners vote today on SAXET gun shows at Expo Center : Austin
     

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    Time for Abbott to rip them a new one. The government can't deny access to one group in favor of another. He needs to slap an injunction against the County to stop the rodeo and any other events from taking place there or at any other county owned facility until they sign the agreement with Saxet. And then hold Biscoe et all in contempt if they refuse.

    I thought I remember d Abbott threatening a "double barrel" lawsuit
     

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    Bastrop Convention Center is way under used and sure could use the event.

    A promoter tried Bastrop and failed per my memory. The "randman" might be able to comment" I don't think there's any buisness drive for a gun show in Bastrop otherwise it'd be there. I can only wish. This area needs another regular venue for customers/vendors with realistic purchase.sell prices in mind.
     

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    They can set rules that they are legally allowed to set, like requiring insurance, deposits, cleaning, etc. But they are not allowed to impose additional restrictions on firearms because the state of Texas specifically denies local governments that power. And they are most certainly not allowed to deny access of an otherwise legal group to county facilities because they happen to disagree with the group's political position. That is the essence of free speech.

    Right amendment but wrong section of it.
     

    Dash Riprock

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    Okay.. What are you Travis county people going to do about this?

    Good question. I don't know. I already don't vote for the fools we have running for local office here (except for Dougherty, the lone R). I trust that Abbott will step in and bitch slap these morons into next week. It would be a great campaign opportunity since he's not going to win Travis County anyway.

    Beyond that, hopefully the NRA or one of the conservative civil rights groups will come to the Saxet promoter's aid and sue. They just can't do this, and encouraging Saxet to move to Cedar Park misses the point. Can you imagine the sheer hell the left would raise if they denied, say, a permit application for some Gay Pride Festival at one of the county parks? Governments aren't allowed to choose sides when it comes to utilization of government facilities, period.
     
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