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  • Sam7sf

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    Check this out and make the call.

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/


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    Classic article. It covers some things good and others not at all.

    IMO it’s a combination of fast firing, shitty powders, and higher pressure vs a bigger caliber. For example: it’s not magic that a chrome lined 7.62x39 barrel will last longer than a 5.45x39 under the same abuse. Get a smaller caliber heated up from mag dumps along low quality powder and you now have a barrel burner.
     

    etxranch

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    Russian steel is bad for Direct impingement, and also bad for certain lower quality bcg. Remedies include a nickel boron bcg, enhanced firing pin, strong trigger/hammer spring, and lots of lubes..
     

    zackmars

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    Russian steel is bad for Direct impingement, and also bad for certain lower quality bcg. Remedies include a nickel boron bcg, enhanced firing pin, strong trigger/hammer spring, and lots of lubes..

    Not quite, to start off with, unless you have a ljungman, Hakim, or rasheed, you don't have a direct impingment. Its a common misconception, but the AR15 and AR10 have pistons, somewhat similar in effect to a short stroke piston. Just instead of being out at the barrel, its built into the bolt and carrier

    #2, if you have a low quality BCG, it'll most likely have issues with everything. I've never seen a single BCG eat brass but not steel. If you have ejection or extraction issues, you may need to replace the ejector spring/insert, or use an O ring to add tension.

    #3 just because a BCG is NiB, doesn't mean it's higher quality. NiB isn't like hard chrome, and it will wear off the rails on a BCG after a mag or two. Plenty of NiB BCGs have major flaking issues, plus other issues that any other BCG can have.

    #4 5.56/.223 doesn't need a fancy firing pin. If your rifle isn't setting off primers, thats fault of the trigger group, unless your firing pin is out of spec

    #5 yep. One of the two biggest issues with 5.56 steel case is either the hammer spring was installed upside down, or the shooter is using a low power spring to help with trigger pull. Get a Geissele SSA or LaRue MBT, and make sure it's installed correctly. You don't need crazy springs to have a nice trigger.


    Sometimes, depending on the quality of the barrel or the specific chamber cut, some barrels just do not play well with steel
     

    Deimos

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    What prices are you guys seeing for wolf gold 55 grain?
    https://gun.deals/category/ammo?caliber=11
    Check this out and make the call.

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/


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    Wolf 0.30 shipped.
    https://gun.deals/category/ammo?caliber=11&brand[]=269

    Here is what I gleaned from that their mag dumps:

    1) Cartridge cases made of brass, aluminum, or steel seem to have no effect on the wear of the extractor, the bolt, etc.

    2 ) If you use Steel Jacketed Bullets (A galvanized fence nail is not "bi-metal" no matter how much marketing smoke you are blowing) you will have accelerated barrel throat erosion.

    As they state "some (steel jacketed) shots at 6,000 “keyholed,” or impacted the target sideways." The 5000 round barrel bore measurement was 0.05 thousands increase for the gilding metal Federal bullets compared to the 0.20 for the Russian ammo. That is 4x greater wear for the same number of rounds. This is probably due to the poorer obturation of the harder steel bullet jacket allowing more high pressure hot gas to pass by the bullet in the barrel throat.

    German and Greek 308 and some US arsenal 30-06 and 308 are also steel jacketed bullets.
     
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