Ft Worth court rules Texas cannot ban 18-20 year olds to carry

[1911'S 4 Me]

Teenage thugs do it, so why not legal law-abiding citizens.

 

[jrbfishn]

Then why let men drive before 25?
Or take out loans, drive, hunt or get married? Or really just about anything.
Now women on the other hand. At 18, science says they make not one single stupid decision for the rest of their lives.......
So let's let women drink and carry handguns at 18 but men have to wait until they are 25. Or move out on their own. Oh hell, let's just say men aren't mature or responsible enough to make any decisions until you are 25. That will save the world from certain doom.
Are the data tables wrong that men are more prone to be involved in a wreck before 25 still correct? Probably. Is that a reason to discriminate against men in every facet of their lives until 25? Absofuckinglutely not! It's absurd.


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[oldag]

Z, you are really slacking today.

Taking Friday off?

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

17 year olds join the military...with parent's permission quite regularly.

17 - not 25 - with (at times) once trained, incredible responsibility.

How can that happen?

Are the 'actuarial tables' out of whack?

No, they're a good 'average', but trying to convince us that 25 year old's aren't subject to dipshit behavior is just plain silly...

Yes, they're most likely making better decisions than teenagers, but 'consistently/constantly' good decisions...bull shit.

Stacked against teenagers, 25 year olds are 'generally' better at making good decisions...but they're still green as adults...

How can I be so certain?

I was a 25 year old, a long, long time ago and I made some really dumb decisions...really, really dumb.

I'm lucky I'm still above ground.

 

[Tnhawk]

17 year olds join the military...with parent's permission quite regularly.


I was a 25 year old, a long, long time ago and I made some really dumb decisions...really, really dumb.

I'm lucky I'm still above ground.

Were it not due to the fear of the UCMJ and First Sergeants, I probably would have made some really dumb decisions.

 

[London]

Glad I donate to these guys. TX Republicans want the worst of both worlds- treating minors as adults in court and treating adults like minors in public.

Federal court rejects Texas carry ban for adults under-21

It’s a big win for Second Amendment advocates, but Thursday’s decision by U.S District Judge Mark Pittman won’t immediately change Texas law. The judge has stayed his ruling for 30 d...

bearingarms.com

 

[TxStetson]

5th time is the charm.

 

[Axxe55]

Already two other threads on the same topic.

Ft Worth court rules Texas cannot ban 18-20 year olds to carry

A federal court in Fort Worth on Thursday struck down a Texas prohibition that limited adults under 21 from carrying handguns. :usflag: https://www.kwtx.com/2022/08/25/federal-judge-says-texas-cant-ban-18-20-year-olds-carrying-handguns/

www.texasguntalk.com

U.S. District Court Finds Texas Penal Code 46.02(a) Prohibition of Carry by 18-20 Year Olds Unconstitutional

And another one falls via Bruen and the 14th amendment! To the extent that Texas’s statutory scheme, TEX. PENAL CODE § 46.02(a) and TEX. GOV’T CODE §§ 411.172(a)(2), (g), (h), (i), prohibits law-abiding 18-to-20-year-olds from carrying handguns for self-defense outside the home based solely on...

www.texasguntalk.com

 

[ZX9RCAM]

It wasn't me.

 

[DougC]

Good news on the 2A front. The tougher battles will be in NY, CA and other leftist states that are still clinging to their anti-gun laws. It will take years and several election cycles to make a difference there.

 

[Maverick44]

I'm hoping we see this trend continue for years to come. A federal judge in Texas has ruled that the law prohibiting those under felony indictment from buying firearms is unconstitutional. The feds have appealed the decision to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which has a history of being friendly to gun rights. This is not only a win for gun rights, it's a win for the idea that you are innocent until proven guilty. An indictment is not proof of guilt. To use an old adage, a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

"The Second Amendment is not a 'second class right,'" Counts wrote. "No longer can courts balance away a constitutional right."

Americans under felony indictment have a right to buy guns, judge rules

A federal law prohibiting people under felony indictment from buying firearms is unconstitutional, a federal judge in Texas has concluded, citing a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that significantly expanded gun rights.

www.reuters.com

 

[McPatrickClan]

It has been 30 days. Texas has not appealed the ruling, as far as I can tell. Does this mean legal adults (18 years of age) can Constitutional Carry now in Texas?

 

[Sasquatch]

It has been 30 days. Texas has not appealed the ruling, as far as I can tell. Does this mean legal adults (18 years of age) can Constitutional Carry now in Texas?

was there a stay on the ruling for 30 days?

 

[McPatrickClan]

was there a stay on the ruling for 30 days?

Yes.

 

[gll]

Maybe the judge will act tomorrow.

 

[DougC]

According to Dallas Morning News 9/27/2022 Metro/State edition TX DPS appealed the decision, but but....
the state did not offer any arguments. State AG which is representing DPS in court didn't response to a request for comment.

Seems like Texas is just going through the motion for voters. How does a government argue that the 2A rights shouldn't start at 18 but 21? Eighteen has been determined in law to be age of majority and as adults they get full Bill of Rights protection.

 

[toddnjoyce]

… Seems like Texas is just going through the motion for voters. How does a government argue that the 2A rights shouldn't start at 18 but 21? Eighteen has been determined in law to be age of majority and as adults they get full Bill of Rights protection.

You seem to be under the impression the state cares about 2A rights. If anything, Hot Wheels and that scion of ethical virtue in the AGs office have demonstrated they’re only interested in votes.

 

[Sasquatch]

According to Dallas Morning News 9/27/2022 Metro/State edition TX DPS appealed the decision, but but....
the state did not offer any arguments. State AG which is representing DPS in court didn't response to a request for comment.

Seems like Texas is just going through the motion for voters. How does a government argue that the 2A rights shouldn't start at 18 but 21? Eighteen has been determined in law to be age of majority and as adults they get full Bill of Rights protection.

If the AG was supposed to be the one filing motions - how is it DPS could file an appeal without the AG's sign off?

 

[McPatrickClan]

My son is getting a front row seat to bureaucracy.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I’ve got an 18 year old son that wants to know what he can do with this ruling AND another 20 year old son wondering too, who will probably turn 21 before we figure this out…