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  • Southpaw

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    This came from Reuters, however I suspect it's it's brought to you by MAIG, random numbers (:o) and illogical conclusions.







    U.S. mayors say thousands of guns sold illegally online

    By Jonathan Allen





    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Thousands of guns are being offered for sale illegally by unlicensed firearms dealers on a single U.S. website, according to a report released on Thursday by a group of U.S. mayors campaigning for gun control.
    Mayors Against Illegal Guns, founded and largely funded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, examined sales on Armslist.com, a major gun-trading website that enables sales in all 50 states, over an eight-week period this year.
    It said nearly a third of the ads posted were from "high-volume" sellers who lacked the federal license required of individuals who regularly sell firearms.
    Private sellers are generally allowed to sell a gun legally online without checking the buyer's criminal record and mental-health history, although rules governing such sales differ from state to state. Anyone engaged "in the business" of selling guns is required by federal law to have a license and to perform background checks on buyers.

    Based on its sample, the mayors' group estimated that nearly 240,000 guns would be advertised on the website in a year by high-volume sellers posing as private sellers who would not necessarily require background checks.
    "These findings tell us that law enforcement, legislators and web sites all need to take steps to choke off this potentially deadly stream of illegal firearms sales," Bloomberg said in a statement.
    He noted that the report was being released just two days before the anniversary of a mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.

    "Nothing has changed in Washington since Newtown," Bloomberg said.
    In spite of outrage provoked by the Newtown shooting, a gun control bill endorsed by President Barack Obama stalled in the U.S. Senate earlier this year, with gun rights advocates arguing that free access to guns is a constitutional right.
    Gun control advocates, including some from Newtown, gathered at the National Cathedral in Washington on Thursday to mark this week's Newtown anniversary.
    The "National Vigil for Victims of Gun Violence," attended by about 500 people, was organized by the nonprofit Newtown Foundation and the cathedral, both of which back a tightening of federal gun laws.
    The Reverend Mel Kawakami of Newtown's United Methodist Church urged the activists to "work toward a world where there are no more school shootings.
    "We gather to say, No more!" he said.
    In September, the mayors' group estimated that as many as 25,000 guns a year may be sold on Armslist.com to people with criminal records.
    Armslist.com offers a disclaimer that it "does not become involved in any transactions between parties" and its users must agree that they will not break the law. The website's operators did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    Bloomberg, one of the most prominent and wealthy advocates of tighter U.S. gun laws, steps down as mayor at the end of the year, but has said he will remain active on the issue.
    (Additional reporting by LaLacey Johnson in Washington; Editing by Edith Honan and David Brunnstrom)
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    Younggun

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    They have no idea who the guns are sold to and anyone who has had a speeding ticket has a criminal record.

    The whole thing is just a MIAG fluff piece. Not sure if fuzzy math applies as much as a random number they thought would sound good.
     

    Southpaw

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    They have no idea who the guns are sold to and anyone who has had a speeding ticket has a criminal record.

    The whole thing is just a MIAG fluff piece. Not sure if fuzzy math applies as much as a random number they thought would sound good.

    Perhaps I was giving them a bit too much credit in calling it "math". LOL!!
     

    rushthezeppelin

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    First they say it's illegal sales because they are coming from "high volume" dealers that don't have a FFL (I'm sure they just ran across a few people who wanted to get rid of a chunk of their collection all at one time, more than a one month study would be needed to determine whether or not they are "high volume"). Then they say it's going to people who have criminal records (what did they hack the site and determine buyer info and send PIs after them?). Which is it MAIG?
     

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    This just in membership of Mayors Against (il)Legal Guns 9000 times more likely to commit felony than average gun owners.
     

    Southpaw

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    Idiotic. Background checks still apply for online sales. I do them all the time. I have a C&R. You need to have an FFL or go through an FFL.

    Their target audience are non-gun owners and hence they can get away with not stating facts. These are the same people that are afraid to be in the same room with a gun because it might go off by itself. I'm not happy to admit I know a few of them, but thank God they are 2000+ miles away.
     
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