Uh oh, THIS thread again: legalization of drugs
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Yep. Difference is if you are trying to justify it being made legal by using the argument that it isn't life threatening, you may want to rethink your approach.Kinda like alcohol
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I never claimed any drug was not life threatening. That was a different member. I simply don't care if someone wants to use a drug that will kill them.
Now this is where you say "but if it was your family member". That is true, and I would hope to convince them otherwise, but I don't need the government to do it.
I avoid most drugs, don't like or think I would like the effects. Some of my best friends enjoy MJ and do very well in society. If fact, I know many productive smokers and very few of the stereotypical smokers.
We can scream about ODing till our faces turn blue but that was a choice the person using the drug made.
I kinda feel that full legalization of all drugs(never gonna happen) might weed out some of the lower forms we deal with daily.
I really can't see any reason not to make MJ legal. I don't care for it, but after being around plenty of smokers it's obvious the effects don't live up to the propaganda.
And that is who my post was directed at. I am not saying its right or wrong, simply that the safety aspect is not a good selling point for cocaine.
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Everyone has to make choices and it's my choice too not associate with anyone that does illegal drugs or engages in illegal activities.
I also include with those 2 groups people that can not drink in moderation.
Yeah, I was just bein difficult, lol.
I will try to support those close to me with a drinking problem but when it gets to the point they don't want help I walk away. Had a very good friend I didn't speak to for several years because of it.
I don't necessarily judge it based on legal/not legal, but the person and whether or not they are taking something too far.
Those I know who may venture out side of legal territory have enough respect for others not to do those things around me or bring anything in my vehicle or property. In other words, they don't harm anyone else with their choice.
I agree with this as well. I don't have a problem with Mj being legal even though I loathe most regular pot users, but I can't even see where buying heroin at Valero would be a good thing for anyone. I too have witnessed what these types of drugs can do to even the occasional user and it's not good.
I'm not just talking about what it does to there own body, but rather the criminal behavior that follows when one is out of money and needs more. Just because it's legal won't make it free, and when you have a X number of bag a day habit of dope and that starts creeping up beyond a users means, they aren't just going to wait till next payday for a fix. It doesn't take but a good weekend of using heroin to feel the effects of withdrawal on Monday.
Will everyone become addicted, no, but heroin use or any opiate for that matter is definitely a step up from MJ, alcohol or LSD/shrooms. Some people will be able to shake off a couple days use, but for those that don't, they are pretty much done. It's going to be a long hard road to getting out of it, if they even lucky enough to make it to that point.
That's true.
MJ is not in the same league as other drugs when it comes to addiction and effects if withdrawal.
Really, to have a thread debating as an all or nothing question is pretty much doomed to failure.
My only reasoning for making other drugs legal would be that the gov shouldn't say what I do with my organs. The question is, can other drugs such as meth be used in a way that does not end with the user infringing on the rights if others. Generally speaking, I would say no. Outside of certain variants of drugs, such as morphine used in the medical field, I don't see anyone using those substances with out eventually harming someone else. So unless we make it much easier to splatter a meth heads brain without worrying about tens if thousands in court costs I don't think it would be a good idea to legalize those types of drugs.
I don't see MJ the same way. I think it is in line with alcohol and could be used just as responsibly. Some would take it to far, but that happens with everything in life.
MJ is not in the same league as other drugs when it comes to addiction and effects if withdrawal.
Really, to have a thread debating as an all or nothing question is pretty much doomed to failure.
My only reasoning for making other drugs legal would be that the gov shouldn't say what I do with my organs. The question is, can other drugs such as meth be used in a way that does not end with the user infringing on the rights if others. Generally speaking, I would say no. Outside of certain variants of drugs, such as morphine used in the medical field, I don't see anyone using those substances with out eventually harming someone else. So unless we make it much easier to splatter a meth heads brain without worrying about tens if thousands in court costs I don't think it would be a good idea to legalize those types of drugs.
I don't see MJ the same way. I think it is in line with alcohol and could be used just as responsibly. Some would take it to far, but that happens with everything in life.
True. Granted. Absolutely.
However, I'm not trying to sell anything, just pointing out that in terms of relative impact on personal safety, making many drugs illegal isn't rationally justified.
Of course, rationality is hardly a criteria strictly adhered to in the legislative process, is it?
Family member. He recently went back to college, made 16 straight A's to get into the business school of our university, and graduated summa cum laude on the last 60 hours of credit, not a dirty sleeze who always gets and needs to be bailed out. Even normal, intelligent, and productive members of society can smoke marijuana, and risk getting caught up in some stupid law outlawing the possession of something no worse than alcohol.
You seem to associate people who use the drug as some sort of lowlife failure by jumping to that conclusion.
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Being that smart did he miss the fact it is illegal whether or not y'all agree with the law or not ? He took the chance and got caught. Too bad.
Maybe this will add to his education.
I'm not arguing the fact that he mare a stupid decision, I said that in my first post that its his fault. I'm arguing that its a stupid law.
Most likely, he's going to get it expunged I believe.
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Enforcement wouldn't benefit from The 'education portion' Or counseling... It would leave entire divisions out of work, and make over 100 years of lying come to light. On the other hand, I am against legalization due to the fact that this capitalist economy would have "propaganda and Ad's" everywhere , but who am I to judge what a person does in private.
