Ukraine invasion

[cycleguy2300]

russia continues to strike civilian buildings and homes... last night the hit an office building.

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[candcallen]

That'll be difficult, since it never happened. The claim was that during OIF the Iraqis were picking Abrams tanks off easily with RPGs, simply by shooting down at them from above.

That was my point. Easily verified

 

[General Zod]

That was my point. Easily verified

Like the rest of his claims, we just have to take his word for it.

 

[studenygreg]

I wish both sides would meet and try to find a solution. I know that is not easy.

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[candcallen]

I wish both sides would meet and try to find a solution. I know that is not easy.

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They can't find a table long enough.

 

[studenygreg]

Is there an acceptable area of land that Ukraine can give up to end this?

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[studenygreg]

They can't find a table long enough.

Or a room big enough for putin and zelelinskis egos

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[General Zod]

Is there an acceptable area of land that Ukraine can give up to end this?

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Appeasement isn't usually a strategy that ends well, historically speaking. "Peace in our time" and all that.

 

[studenygreg]

Appeasement isn't usually a strategy that ends well, historically speaking. "Peace in our time" and all that.

Probably right. I just hope they figure something out.

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[studenygreg]

Maybe one day we can have AI assisted negotiations. They can quickly account for each sides wants and historical context. I would be interested to see what AI would recommend for this situation.

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[General Zod]

Maybe one day we can have AI assisted negotiations. They can quickly account for each sides wants and historical context. I would be interested to see what AI would recommend for this situation.

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I'm sure the AI would find a fair solution...

 

[studenygreg]

I'm sure the AI would find a fair solution...


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Nice lol

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[ZX9RCAM]

Shall we play a game?

 

[candcallen]

Maybe one day we can have AI assisted negotiations. They can quickly account for each sides wants and historical context. I would be interested to see what AI would recommend for this situation.

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[ZX9RCAM]

I guess you missed my post right above yours.

 

[candcallen]

I guess you missed my post right above yours.

Nijad!

Gotta get up before noon to beat cam.

ETA not exactly ninja. I'm out and about and the wifi is spotty.

 

[CavCop]

That'll be difficult, since it never happened. The claim was that during OIF the Iraqis were picking Abrams tanks off easily with RPGs, simply by shooting down at them from above.

Research the PG 29V and find some soldiers who were in Iraq when M1’s were limited to entry gate duty only, and not allowed to go out on missions circa 2004-05 when they became fixed objects. M1 tanks were NOT fighting in Iraq post initial invasion, as they were being taken out by the RPG’s. Made the Gulf War myth of the M1 being unbeatable go away quick.

There were some leaks on line about it back then.

Most ambushes in Iraq were from roof tops.

 

[General Zod]

Research the PG 29V and find some soldiers who were in Iraq when M1’s were limited to entry gate duty only, and not allowed to go out on missions circa 2004-05 when they became fixed objects. M1 tanks were NOT fighting in Iraq post initial invasion, as they were being taken out by the RPG’s. Made the Gulf War myth of the M1 being unbeatable go away quick.

There were some leaks on line about it back then.

Most ambushes in Iraq were from roof tops.

I see accounts of four tanks damaged. That's not "picking them off like flies". Plus, you said "RPG", not PG-29V ATGM. Moving those goal posts again.

M1 Abrams tanks were patrolling even in urban areas of Iraq as of 2005 in the most cursory Google search. It seems the larger danger to M1 operations was IEDs, because the bottom of the tank is vulnerable to the sheer amount of explosives the insurgents were putting in them. And it did not prevent tank patrols like you claim. And none were "picked off like flies".

 

[CavCop]

I see accounts of four tanks damaged. That's not "picking them off like flies". Plus, you said "RPG", not PG-29V ATGM. Moving those goal posts again.

M1 Abrams tanks were patrolling even in urban areas of Iraq as of 2005 in the most cursory Google search. It seems the larger danger to M1 operations was IEDs, because the bottom of the tank is vulnerable to the sheer amount of explosives the insurgents were putting in them. And it did not prevent tank patrols like you claim. And none were "picked off like flies".

It’s an RPG. RPG 29 Vampir. When you looked it up, you probably saw that. Yet you say I am moving goal posts? Do you know any veterans that served in Iraq, outside a FOB?

M1Tanks were stopped from doing combat patrols and operations due to vulnerabilities.

Heck it was probably in the Wiki leaks files showing the truth about things in Iraq.

 

[General Zod]

Do you know any veterans that served in Iraq, outside a FOB?

Yes, I know ones who served on the ground and I know ones who flew combat missions who you falsely claim were bombing apartment buildings.