Ukraine invasion

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

I enjoy this thread and it various arguments.

If one doesn't like this thread, there's the old saw: If you don't like the thread...don't read the thread.

Move your eyes elsewhere, but don't insist that because YOU don't like the thread means it has to be condemned.

 

[oldag]

I think it *could* take as long as published to deliver them, but seriously doubt it. Also, these will not be the only tanks the ЗСУ has on the front, at worst they would be supported by other armor, but I think it reasonable to expect the Abrams especially to be used as units wholly comprised of Abrams. The logistics of their maintenance dictate that. I also expect the Leopards to be employed in Leopard only units, but they *should* be easier to maintain with its more traditional powerplant.

I think Belarus is just saber rattling, as they have been doing since the war started. They cannot afford to become truly involved, but Ukraine cannot afford to ignore them either. Belarus also provides russia a safe non-beligerant state with maintenance and training facilities, also russia has been drawing down Belarusian munitions already so there is a reasonable chance the tanks they are prepping will be handed over to russia.

I tend to think russia could gain complete air superiority if they were willing to take the losses, but manpads would make it very risky in the best case.

We shall see...






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I do not believe Belaurs wants anything at all to do with attacking Ukraine with its own troops. Belarus just saber rattles to try and appease Putin without actually doing anything.

 

[General Zod]

I do not believe Belaurs wants anything at all to do with attacking Ukraine with its own troops. Belarus just saber rattles to try and appease Putin without actually doing anything.

Pretty much. Lukashenko is a lap dog trying to please his master...but he appears to be smart enough not to commit combat troops on Putin's behalf.

 

[Darkpriest667]

So if you weren't ready for WW3 be prepped, Bidens tanks.. They're on a publicly listed transport including routes and dates. Meaning if thye get sunk (and we may sink them ourselves and claim the russians did it) we're gonna be Lusitania all over again.

 

[popper]

PICS: French Navy Seizes Missiles, Guns En Route to Yemen from Iran

French naval forces seized thousands of rifles, machine guns, and missiles in the Gulf of Oman heading from Iran to Yemen's Houthi rebels

www.breitbart.com

Free guns & missiles for Ukraine.

 

[leVieux]

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A bit of REAL History:

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Just for those who need to understand some background on the
current Ukrainian conflict(s).

leVieux
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[wiredgeorge]

I dimly recall at the start of the Ukraine invasion Putin claiming bio weapons factories were in Ukraine or something along those lines... saw this today, can't verify the veracity independently:

REVEALED! Zelensky Ordered Destruction of Hunter Biden Docs DAY OF RUSSIAN INVASION!

Ukrainian President Zelensky sent an urgent decree on February 24, 2022, the same day Russia invaded the country, ordering government officials to destroy all information and documents related to Hunter Biden’s Metabiota Company. This bombshell was first reported by DC Draino earlier this week and l

freedomheadlines.com

 

[cycleguy2300]

I dimly recall at the start of the Ukraine invasion Putin claiming bio weapons factories were in Ukraine or something along those lines... saw this today, can't verify the veracity independently:

REVEALED! Zelensky Ordered Destruction of Hunter Biden Docs DAY OF RUSSIAN INVASION!

Ukrainian President Zelensky sent an urgent decree on February 24, 2022, the same day Russia invaded the country, ordering government officials to destroy all information and documents related to Hunter Biden’s Metabiota Company. This bombshell was first reported by DC Draino earlier this week and l

freedomheadlines.com

I'd bet every significant country in the world has biology research labs... doesn't even come close to justifying an invasion EVEN IF they happened to be doing weapons work.

I strongly doubt Ukraine was actually doing any sort of that work, but even if they were, an invasion would not be justified.

*perhaps* at most, had Ukriane openly threatened russia a missile strike as the supposed labs could be justified, but nothing more. You'd think if they existed russia would want to show the world the proof, but there is NOTHING close to evidence they existed as claimed.

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[BigRed]

Helpful hint:

State is a lying sack of shit.

Thieves and scoundrels are lying sacks of shit.

Each uses the other as a cover against truth.

 

[AlcoholicRetard]

Putin is a strong sexy man and I hope he wins.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

 

[Eastexasrick]

Putin is a strong sexy man and I hope he wins.

Welcome back.

 

[BigRed]

Putin is a strong sexy man and I hope he wins.

But of course.

While I have no obligation to inform you, I do have an offer to dispatch putin on the table.

If you want to suck him off after the close, you are welcome to it.

 

[wiredgeorge]

But of course.

While I have no obligation to inform you, I do have an offer to dispatch putin on the table.

If you want to suck him off after the close, you are welcome to it.

Responding to an obvious troll makes the troll feel all warm and gooey.

 

[BigRed]

Meanwhile today, how much of funds rendered from American taxpayers have we pissed away on this bullshit?

 

[leVieux]

Meanwhile today, how much of funds rendered from American taxpayers have we pissed away on this bullshit?

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”EXACKERLY” !

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[wakosama]

Meanwhile today, how much of funds rendered from American taxpayers have we pissed away on this bullshit?

hey... we don't got the Afghans to shoot at anymore. if we don't got a war somewhere who's gonna keep the profits flowing to Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Meanwhile today, how much of funds rendered from American taxpayers have we pissed away on this bullshit?

Are you daft? We've been over this.

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[BigRed]

Are you daft? We've been over this.

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Not at all.

I've simply had my fill of being plundered.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Not at all.

I've simply had my fill of being plundered.

Here's the deal bro...

Ukriane getting a bunch of our equipment and some of our money isn't the problem it is at most a symptom. You repeatedly bitching using ignorant hyperbole is a just as much of a problem as the US sending our tax dollars abroad.

I am 100% for the USA sending tech and equipment for free or a large discount. I don't like our tax dollars leaving our shore, but that ship has sailed and at least it is going to a good cause. The value of the equipment and cash is maximized by going to Ukraine who is fighting to remain free and taking real, concrete steps to clean out corruption.

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