UN to probe Stand Your Ground.

[benenglish]

There are signs like this all of the US at national parks and other sites. The UN is behind this also.
On the surface it seems harmless but what business of the UN is our national parks and historic sites?

I don't suppose it's anybody's business, really. However, the designation was originally an idea from the U.S. We led the world in creating the whole idea of National Parks and in 1965 a White House study group proposed that something similar be done internationally. A bunch of nations got on board with that idea via the U.N.

Mostly, it's a bureaucratic waste of money but sometimes it serves a purpose. If something of real historical, cultural, or natural significance is threatened with destruction, theoretically all the nations that have signed on to the program will chip in a few bucks to save whatever is threatened. Some good work of that sort has been done on multiple occasions.

Also, designation of a location as a World Heritage Site automatically puts it under the protection of the Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict. So, since these sites are supposed to be off-limits during war, neither side is supposed to use them to support their war effort. Also, neither side is supposed to willfully damage such sites.

That means if we ever get into an all-out war again, no signatory to the agreement that created the site registry should ever attack:

• Mesa Verde National Park
• Yellowstone National Park
• Everglades National Park
• Grand Canyon National Park
• Independence Hall
• Kluane / Wrangell-St. Elias / Glacier Bay / Tatshenshini-Alsek
• Redwood National and State Parks
• Mammoth Cave National Park
• Olympic National Park
• Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site
• Great Smoky Mountains National Park
• La Fortaleza and San Juan National Historic Site in Puerto Rico
• Statue of Liberty
• Yosemite National Park
• Chaco Culture
• Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
• Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville
• Taos Pueblo
• Carlsbad Caverns National Park
• Waterton Glacier International Peace Park
• Papahānaumokuākea

Now, just because this is all basically a good idea doesn't mean it is or isn't a legitimate government function or worth the money spent on it. Everybody will have their opinion on that. I'm just trying to answer your basic question about why the U.N. pays any attention to our historic or significant sites like national parks. The answer is - Because we asked them to.

 

[TheDan]

In a couple hundred years when people are reflecting back to the progressive era they'll say, "wow! I can't believe people put up with that crap, but at least we got some parks out of it."

The agreement not to attack heritage sites is a bit silly in my opinion. Why would anyone ever attack wilderness? There's nothing there to attack. Additionally, it would be supremely stupid to attack a monument. It would do nothing to actually hurt us, but it would really piss us off. Like Hulk pissed off... The phrase "Remember Mount Rushmore" would be much more dangerous to our enemies than some faces carved into a mountain.

 

[benenglish]

In a couple hundred years ... The phrase "Remember Mount Rushmore" would be...

Oh, I generally agree. I remember thinking in the aftermath of 11 Sep 2001 that if they had flown one of those planes into the Statue of Liberty, the entire nation would have been screaming for genocide in retaliation.

 

[Atlas Thug]

So U.S. sovereignty is nobodys business? The only reason the perverts in the U.N. are using these bogus 'World Heritage' designators is to garner itself perceived legitimacy.
seeing a World Heritage Site does not give me warm fuzzies like it does you.
I am sure bureacratic wastes of money makes logical sense to some, but that does not mean we should want them ruling our lives.

 

[benenglish]

seeing a World Heritage Site does not give me warm fuzzies like it does you.

Yeah, I get warm fuzzies when I see the Grand Canyon, Redwood National Forest, Independence Hall, or Monticello. If you don't, well, I don't know what to think about that.

 

[Atlas Thug]

You know what I mean, dont put words in my mouth.
I am referring to the stupid plaque / sign placed at the parks.
I am sure you will make a nice, World citizen.
The United Nations are classic usurpers. They inflate their own
importance, maybe even more so than the US Govt.
And this is while they are nothing more than a "me too!"
group for Third World despots and perverts.

Putting a UN sign on an American park would be like me going
to someones house and putting a sign there saying "Its Mine"

 

[benenglish]

Putting a UN sign on an American park would be like me going
to someones house and putting a sign there saying "Its Mine"

Really? I guess all those folks who live in really old homes with historical markers on them, placed there by the Texas State Historical Commission, should feel threatened that Texas is gonna come take their home, huh?

Look, I'm basically with you on the subject of the U.N. There are plenty of things about the U.N. to hate. The designation of world heritage sites, however, isn't one of them. Of all the silly things to misinterpret and get torqued about, this is one of the least significant I can imagine. Save your blood pressure for the important fights and don't get upset when the U.N. (originally at the behest of the U.S., remember) does some inconsequential nice thing. Seeing this as a threat is (and I'm putting this as nicely as I can) a waste of effort, a minor distraction.

 

[txtard]

I don't post much. Why don't we defund the UN? There nothing without our money. Move them to the south side of Chi-town or Detroit.

 

[benenglish]

I don't post much. Why don't we defund the UN? There nothing without our money. Move them to the south side of Chi-town or Detroit.

Good idea; I could certainly get behind that.

 

[txbikerman]

+1^^^^^^

 

[Atlas Thug]

Take care, Ben...

 

[Charlie]

Post of the month ................. maybe the year!

 

[Trung Si]

As far as I am concerned, the UN can stick that Probe up their collective A$$es and that includes all Americans that welcome UN actions!

 

[Charlie]

As far as I am concerned, the UN can stick that Probe up their collective A$$es and that includes all Americans that welcome UN actions!

Don't be holdin' back anything..................tell us what you really think!! Great post!

 

[hellishhorses]

Dear UN,

I think you have mistaken us for another country. One filled with wimps, sissies, limp wrists and girly drinks.

Sincerely,


America

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