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Discussion in 'General Firearms & Ammo' started by TheMailMan, Jun 1, 2018.
Just a simple question. Would/do you support universal background checks?
It's not simple to me. IF that was the end game for gun controllers, then I wouldn't be "for" it but I could live with it. But it's not an ultimate goal, it's just something on the list - a list that ultimately ends in confiscation of all privately-owned firearms. BTW, I do like pie.
There is only one way that universal background checks can “work”, and that is with mandatory registration and steep fines for possessing a firearm that is not registered to you.
Ala what has been done for over 80 years with NFA items.
NO! But I too like pie. It was a hard decision.
When you get the 99% results of NOT in favor send them to the Dallas News outlet from your other thread.
I am going to assume that UBC includes NICS. So in order to sell my personal property as a law abiding citizen I have to do a NICS on the potential buyer, fill out paperwork, maintain that paperwork for a LOT of years, pay a fee, register my gun and myself with the FBI/ATF and who know who else, possibly pay taxes on the sale, file this with my annual taxes with the IRS. Then there is the mandatory waiting time before I can transfer the gun (yes I know that they have added that one, but as soon as they pass UBC it will ALL be added on. Now I just sold a gun to a legit guy, went thru ALL the hoops and he drove away, went home, killed his wife and baby, drove over to the school where his 7 and 8 year old kids went and shot 11 kids and 2 teachers. And now I am being sued by 11 sets of parents, 2 teachers and 9 wounded kids, the school district, the city and the state.
Yea, I think this is a great idea, lets do more of it, I got nothing else to do this week. I can't wait for UBC.
I am a sovereign America citizen I do not need YOUR friggin permission to sell my car, my home, my watch, my lawnmower or anything else I legit own. SO take you UBC and roll the paperwork into a cone and shove it where the sun don't shine or call me and I will shove it for you!!!!!
^that's a no!
I think it would just be so that even private sales would have to go through a FFL...
Just noticed you support them. Can you explain your position? Not trying to start an argument about it, just trying to understand where one who supports them is coming from.
Oh yeah, and MajorMax, peach or apple?
Lived thru it being implemented in Colorado... didn't do a damn thing except make it a PITA to buy/sell private party- gotta go find a willing FFL, pay them and CBI for the BGC (Colorado won't use NICS, they have a division of the Colorado Bureau of Investigations that does it and sets their "fee" tax), and a chilling effect on the amount of private party sales (which could be the real goal with UBC) They'll point to the # of failed BGCs as "success"- when 99% of those are false positives (or CBI denying sale until unpaid parking tickets are resolved) The only real measurement would be if there were convictions of a prohibited person trying to purchase a gun, which is very near zero... I think I heard of ONE guy being arrested because he had a bench warrant he "wasn't aware of"
You also wind up with new sayings like "CIP, CIP"
Comply in Public, Conduct in Private
Possible, but that would really add an extra burden and cost, FFL folks not gonna do it for free and due to the amount of sales cost to make the deal could climb significantly and each FFL can name his own $. I know some now that charge as much as $50, $25-$35 seems common in my area.