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  • Kar98

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    So Walther was bought by the other two?

    How would a person determine who made it? Serial number?

    No, Interarms and Smith were the importer for Walther, and also made the PPK and PPK/S for a while.

    You can go by serial number, or simply by appearance and what it says on the gun itself.

    Made in the US, short tang = Interarms.
    Made in the US, long tang = Smith.

    And of course there is the latest, current production, assembled in Arkansas, by Walther, from German and American parts. Long tang, no “made under license”, very flat sides and sharp edges, and available in nickel and flat black.
     

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    I was under the impression that Interarms imported theirs. May have read that wrong though.

    Both. Kinda.

    1) Interarms itself never made or assembled Walther pistols, nor did the old Walther USA LLC. Manufacture was sublicensed to a defense contracting firm in Gadsden, Alabama, Mid-South Industries Inc. Among other things they made fuses for cluster bombs for the Air Force, and for the Army rebuilt M16s into M16A2s. Mid-South wore many different corporate hats, including Etowah, Ranger Manufacturing, Black Creek, etc., etc. on whose books the Walther manufacture was internally assigned at various times. It was the same factory. A marking variance had been obtained from BATF so that the only names that appeared on the guns were Walther's and Interarms'.

    2) After Umarex bought Walther it also purchased back the manufacturing license and exclusive North American distributorship held by Interarms. Mid-South's sublicense had not yet expired, so for a couple years thereafter Mid-South, through one or another of its subsidiaries, continued to produce Walther PPK, PPK/s and TPH pistols for Walther USA LLC, a shell that was set up by Umarex to replace Interarms as the importer and distributor.

    3) When the sub-license to Mid-South expired, Umarex chose not to renew it, but to move manufacture to S&W, and production thereafter was marked with S&W's name.

    4, The arrangement with Smith ended in 2013, and since then, Walther USA is importing their own guns, with some assembly from German and American sourced parts in Arkansas.
     
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    No, Interarms and Smith were the importer for Walther, and also made the PPK and PPK/S for a while.

    You can go by serial number, or simply by appearance and what it says on the gun itself.

    Made in the US, short tang = Interarms.
    Made in the US, long tang = Smith.

    And of course there is the latest, current production, assembled in Arkansas, by Walther, from German and American parts. Long tang, no “made under license”, very flat sides and sharp edges, and available in nickel and flat black.
    No, Interarms and Smith were the importer for Walther, and also made the PPK and PPK/S for a while.

    You can go by serial number, or simply by appearance and what it says on the gun itself.

    Made in the US, short tang = Interarms.
    Made in the US, long tang = Smith.

    And of course there is the latest, current production, assembled in Arkansas, by Walther, from German and American parts. Long tang, no “made under license”, very flat sides and sharp edges, and available in nickel and flat black.

    On the last,
    Good, bad, or no report?
     

    Kar98

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    On the last,
    Good, bad, or no report?

    Not out in numbers high enough to even have a “no report”. Took them nigh on 7 years to start assembly in Arkansas after many years of “later this year!” no wait, “early next, this time fer shure!”
     
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