Excellent points Cyberwolf. You are correct, that we can't go back fifty or sixty years before the bleeding heart liberals got involved with prisons and prisoner's rights. Realistically, I know it's never going to happen. I also have serious doubts that there will be any type of prison reform, except in some very isolated cases where major corruption or violations of human rights are concerned. Corruption and wrong behavior has existed in probably every prison in this country, in every state at some point in time. And even if going going from state ran prisons, to those ran by private corporations or contractors, it's still going to exist.Gentlemen, I humbly suggest that everyone sit back, breath deeply for 1 minute, and relax just a bit.
Y'all are both 'making solid hits' with some of the points being made, while missing some context across most of the rest.
You can both be correct on the same topic, while also both missing some crucial perspectives, IMHO.
^Very much so. This is a solid point worthy of immense consideration.
^Dude, your intentions are in the right place, and that last part I quoted is absolutely spot-on; however, there's no going back, and that shouldn't be any part of our goal.
There so much more detail I would like to add, but that level of dissertation isn't something I have spare time for at the moment. Suffice to say, this is an extremely complicated, and overall extremely important topic; one I will likely come back to at some point...
^I didn't look at any of those links provided, so can't comment on them, but I'll leave the following link for you to read. I can assure you, it's very real. PM for more details if you want...
Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania is a coal-mining town along the Susquehanna River, in the Wyoming Valley. A town of about 40,000 people, it is the county seat for Luzerne, in the northeast part of the state. It is also the epicenter of one of the most scandalous stories about the justice system in...www.childlaw.us
Let's regain our composure and civilized discussion.
My opinion is that any prisoner should have at least the very basic in human rights. Food, roof, clothing and medical when needed, and then put them to work doing something that either benefits running the prison, or the community. IMO, they need nothing beyond those requirements. A prison sentence is not a vacation and they should not be afforded any luxuries that are offered in the free world.