What did you do today in the world of reloading?

[Younggun]

This is why .50 BMG is 8.23 to 10 times more fun than .223.

You math people need help, lol.


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[Vaquero]

Charged some cases for test loads.
Ready to seat the bullets.

 

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[Jakashh]

Loaded a tiny batch of .38 special, 148 gr wadcutters. 2.7 gr of titegroup, minimum powder load.

Will see how this goes and decide if I should make more.


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[Younggun]

Loaded a tiny batch of .38 special, 148 gr wadcutters. 2.7 gr of titegroup, minimum powder load.

Will see how this goes and decide if I should make more.


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That may be a little low.

IIRC, I was doing 3.1gr or tight group under a 125gr SWC and getting 650-700fps out of a 6” Blackhawk. Been a while, but I think that was the load.


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[xdmikey]

Mailman, what press are you using? Or do you make a day of it single stage style?

Ever since I saw your location I've wondered, have you ever shot at Mickey's on S. Belt Line? PM if you'd like.

 

[xdmikey]

Been watching some vids on loading for the m1a since I'm getting back to it and I watched a couple from IV8888 but it wasn't him, it was another guy.

I'm posting because in his video he states he gets 1.5 to 2" with his NM M1A.
I'm thinking why should I listen to anything you have to say after this?

In all honesty I've never tried to put this rifle on paper, at least not since I shot my chrono in the eye.

I've loaded 10 rounds with 46.5 BLC-2. Does anyone have any thoughts on this powder? It measures great but another guy on YT says the only powder to use is 4895 IIRC.

 

[Younggun]

4895 is kind of a do-all powder in rifles. It works for a lot of different cartridges and usually fairly well even if it’s not the best.


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[dee]

I'm posting because in his video he states he gets 1.5 to 2" with his NM M1A.
I'm thinking why should I listen to anything you have to say after this?

M1a aren't exactly known for superb accuracy. Even super match config are typically only a 1moa gun.

Also blc2 isn't very temp stable which is probably why one would choose h4895 over it.


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[xdmikey]

Well hell. Thanks dee. I guess I’ll use up the 24 pounds I got of it!

Not temp stable means don’t shoot it hot conditions?

 

[Younggun]

Well hell. Thanks dee. I guess I’ll use up the 24 pounds I got of it!

Not temp stable means don’t shoot it hot conditions?

It means you don’t want to load rounds that are at/near max pressure during the winter and pull them out in August for a range trip.

It also means that you will see velocity increase/decrease depending on temperatures which will matter more if you shoot longer distances. For the most part it won’t be much of an issue with moderate loads shooting at and fairly short distances (<300-400 yards).


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[xdmikey]

Thanks Younggun!

My range only goes to 200 and I usually shoot rifles in cooler weather.

 

[TheMailMan]

Mailman, what press are you using? Or do you make a day of it single stage style?

Ever since I saw your location I've wondered, have you ever shot at Mickey's on S. Belt Line? PM if you'd like.

I've got two Dillon 650s and a Hornady single stage. I've never shot at that range. I belong to Terrell and that's where I shoot.

Yesterday morning, before heading to the range I wanted to try a new load in the .45 ACP. I got the powder measure dialed in, loaded 100 primers and cranked out 100 rounds of .45 ACP in 9 minutes.

 

[Jakashh]

That may be a little low.

IIRC, I was doing 3.1gr or tight group under a 125gr SWC and getting 650-700fps out of a 6” Blackhawk. Been a while, but I think that was the load.


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Damn, good thing I only loaded 15 rounds or so with my primitive reloading tools lol.

I was going off the hodgdons website.

If you only got 650 FPS out of a 6” barrel, I imagine I’ll be getting far less with my 2” barreled model 10.

Right now I need to work on getting a more consistent crimp and OAL (been getting between 1.45-1.60”, guide calls for 1.60) (keep in mind I’m using a Lee kit that’s basically dies and a rubber mallet).

I doubt with 2.7 grains I’ll be getting too much over pressure due to a round set 0.15” too deep, right? Still put the too-deep ones aside in a dont-shoot pile for now.




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[avvidclif]

Just note in the back of your brain there are some powders that you can't use reduced loads. They are marked.

 

[Younggun]

Damn, good thing I only loaded 15 rounds or so with my primitive reloading tools lol.

I was going off the hodgdons website.

If you only got 650 FPS out of a 6” barrel, I imagine I’ll be getting far less with my 2” barreled model 10.

Right now I need to work on getting a more consistent crimp and OAL (been getting between 1.45-1.60”, guide calls for 1.60) (keep in mind I’m using a Lee kit that’s basically dies and a rubber mallet).

I doubt with 2.7 grains I’ll be getting too much over pressure due to a round set 0.15” too deep, right? Still put the too-deep ones aside in a dont-shoot pile for now.




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Checking my old notes.


3.1gr Tightgroup under 125gr HunterSupply Truncated come and COAL of 1.41.

MV 640-728.


With your heavier bullet and lighter charge the danger will be a squib. 2” barrel makes that less likely than a 6”.

I don’t think detonation will be an issue with tightgroup but I got the charge weight from another member and haven’t tried any lower.


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[benenglish]

Loaded a tiny batch of .38 special, 148 gr wadcutters. 2.7 gr of titegroup, minimum powder load.

The classic load for .38 target ammo is 2.7 grains of Bullseye behind a 148 gr wadcutter. Hodgdon lists 2.7 of Titegroup as a starting load for 148 grain pure lead uncoated hollow base wadcutters.

Other than the fact that there's very little powder in the bottom of the case (Don't double-charge a case, please!), I don't see any problem with using factory recommended load data.

Some shooters in certain sports will drop that to 2.4 grains, risking a stuck bullet. I don't advise that but the fact that so many PPC shooters have done so for so long with so few problems reassures me that 2.7 should work fine.

I have a Model 14 that definitely prefers slightly hotter ammo so I tend to suggest to people looking for maximum accuracy to try slightly more powder. Despite that, you picked a reasonable place to start.

In my often incredibly flawed opinion, of course.

 

[Younggun]

I yield.


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[vmax]

I’m currently tumbling 150 38 SPC brass in my Dillon tumbler.

 

[Jakashh]

Checking my old notes.


3.1gr Tightgroup under 125gr HunterSupply Truncated come and COAL of 1.41.

MV 640-728.


With your heavier bullet and lighter charge the danger will be a squib. 2” barrel makes that less likely than a 6”.

I don’t think detonation will be an issue with tightgroup but I got the charge weight from another member and haven’t tried any lower.


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I’ll load a few hotter ones too. Probably will hit the range this weekend, I’ll take a cleaning rod to knock out any potential squibs and load one at a time.

The classic load for .38 target ammo is 2.7 grains of Bullseye behind a 148 gr wadcutter. Hodgdon lists 2.7 of Titegroup as a starting load for 148 grain pure lead uncoated hollow base wadcutters.

Other than the fact that there's very little powder in the bottom of the case (Don't double-charge a case, please!), I don't see any problem with using factory recommended load data.

Some shooters in certain sports will drop that to 2.4 grains, risking a stuck bullet. I don't advise that but the fact that so many PPC shooters have done so for so long with so few problems reassures me that 2.7 should work fine.

I have a Model 14 that definitely prefers slightly hotter ammo so I tend to suggest to people looking for maximum accuracy to try slightly more powder. Despite that, you picked a reasonable place to start.

In my often incredibly flawed opinion, of course.

Nice. I probably won’t venture lower than 2.7 gr. Is a round that’s improperly or over crimped round more of a risk shooting? Had a few that I think I managed to over-do...