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  • GP40X

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    I got some brass ready to decap and resize today by going to the range and expending 75 rounds. Some Norma 158 grn, Armscor 158,grnm and 35 rounds of Herter's 130 grn. Also bought some good wood to make a base for my Perfect Powder Measure.
     

    DubiousDan

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    I received about 500 rounds of .38 special from a widowed neighbor. Tried some yesterday and they’re cowboy loads, very low recoil. I think I’ll get busy using my kinetic bullet puller to repurpose these. I would rather have the primers but I don’t want to damage them so I’ll just do a different load under the same bullets.
    :) What would you guys do with them?


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    I've been doing the same thing with some old cowboy loads (2.8 B Eye) in 357 cases, 100 at a time. Pull the bullets and reload hotter and with a better bullet. In the spring I may melt down the pulled bullets and recast them into something I like better. Gives me something to do.
     

    deemus

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    Got my case length guage for 224 Valkyrie today. So I trimmed my resized cases and threw them in the tumbler for a few hours tonight.

    i will prime them soon and get some ladder test loads prepared.




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    c.tiberius

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    Pulled some of those bullets. Some had a heavy crimp and it took 5-6 hits to get the bullet out. It’s a slow process and I gave up after 100 rounds or so.
    Tonight I want to pull out the 150 that are brand new brass resize them without the pin in the die and load them with some 125gr XTP That I bought


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    Deavis

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    Pulled some of those bullets. Some had a heavy crimp and it took 5-6 hits to get the bullet out. It’s a slow process and I gave up after 100 rounds or so.
    Tonight I want to pull out the 150 that are brand new brass resize them without the pin in the die and load them with some 125gr XTP That I bought


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    What was wrong with them? Have you tried a collet puller? Still slow but a lot easier to work with (I think)
     

    Ozzman

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    Apparently nothing.
    They were just "cowboy" loads, and he saw the value of the primed cases, rather than the load itself.

    Personally, for .38 special I would just shoot them. Cowboy loads work fine through the snubbies, but it is becoming painfully clear that saving the primers and/or using them for full power loads are now worth the "extra" effort these days.
     

    TexMex247

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    They feel like .22s out of my revolver. The big bag and the boxes are 2.7 grains of trail boss. Didn’t shoot the 3 grain ones yet.


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    I'd do the same as you. Pull some consolidate powder, reload hotter and fire away. In the end maybe you have 10-20 pieces of primed brass to use for something else.
     

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    Last night I finished priming some new starline brass. Did 100 Rd batch w/rem 5-1/2s and 100 w/fed 200 mag primers. I plan on loading both with 2400 and running through a Chrono to see if the mag primers make a difference in es and sd. So much conflicting info on 2400 and magnum primers.

    I'm going to work my way from 13.5-14.5gr under 158gr plated bullets and see what will shoot well and burn cleanest. Hoping to keep them under 1250 fps in a 5" TRR8.
     

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    Last night I finished priming some new starline brass. Did 100 Rd batch w/rem 5-1/2s and 100 w/fed 200 mag primers. I plan on loading both with 2400 and running through a Chrono to see if the mag primers make a difference in es and sd. So much conflicting info on 2400 and magnum primers.

    I'm going to work my way from 13.5-14.5gr under 158gr plated bullets and see what will shoot well and burn cleanest. Hoping to keep them under 1250 fps in a 5" TRR8.
    Let us know how it does. Alliant says 2400 uses regular primers and I specifically bought it as I don't have any SPM. Waiting for Starline to have some 357 brass.
     

    Ozzman

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    So much conflicting info on 2400 and magnum primers.

    I'm going to work my way from 13.5-14.5gr under 158gr plated bullets and see what will shoot well and burn cleanest. Hoping to keep them under 1250 fps in a 5" TRR8.

    Nice revolver.

    I can tell you from experience that 14.5 grains of 2400 is very close to the maximum for this cartridge with 2400.
    Don't get sucked in with old data for 2400 as it is not the same. I did that once and won't do that again. If you search the internet you will find old data that had 15 to 16 grains of 2400 as the max, but the data today is reduced. My S&W 686 can take them hot, but accuracy is not the best beyond 14 grains of 2400 IME.

    Even yet, 13.5 is a hot round. I recommend a start of 12 grains and work up for accuracy for your TRR8. 12.8 of 2400 produced the absolute best groups for me, and they were warm.
     

    TexMex247

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    Nice revolver.

    I can tell you from experience that 14.5 grains of 2400 is very close to the maximum for this cartridge with 2400.
    Don't get sucked in with old data for 2400 as it is not the same. I did that once and won't do that again. If you search the internet you will find old data that had 15 to 16 grains of 2400 as the max, but the data today is reduced. My S&W 686 can take them hot, but accuracy is not the best beyond 14 grains of 2400 IME.

    Even yet, 13.5 is a hot round. I recommend a start of 12 grains and work up for accuracy for your TRR8. 12.8 of 2400 produced the absolute best groups for me, and they were warm.

    Good info there. Thanks for sharing. 14.5 was my intended ceiling. I had read that Xtreme techs recommended 12gr. I may indeed start there and work up. I'm pretty well set on both sp and sp mag primers. I'm looking for that node that's going to give me a balance of cleanliness and proper magnum pop.

    My experience with other powders is that they get dirty when loaded light. In the 38 I couldn't get aa#5 to shoot clean til I was flirting with +p loadings. As far as the 357 mag I read about a guy who ran sr primers instead of mag and liked the result.
     

    c.tiberius

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    Pulled and dumped the soft loads and reloaded with 7gr of longshot for a .38 special +p load.
    Used the 125 gr XTP in the new starline brass.
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